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04-18-2011, 11:00 PM | #67 |
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I'm wondering why everyone is so against a 2.0 4 cylinder turbo? I personally prefer turbos over NA but after having an EVO how could I say anything bad about that motor? If BMW comes anywhere near that motor with good fuel economy then how would it not be a win/win? Flame away...
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04-18-2011, 11:24 PM | #68 |
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“More power, greater torque, reduced fuel consumption, lower tailpipe emissions and less weight–but better? In everyday driving, the N20 is noticeably more responsive although its sound is nowhere near as alluring as that of the engine it replaces (N52), . BMW says that will be fixed on certain models, including on an updated Z4 sDrive28i, with the addition of an electronic sound generator.” Another electronic enhancement - can't wait to hear that one. I prefer my N54. It doesn't feel like a pair of Turbo Chargers. It feels like a pair or TESTIES!! BIG MEATY ONES!!
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Here's an idea; how about figuring out how to build a LIGHTER chassis with a smaller, more fuel effecient I6, and gain some MPG's, instead of sending the audio engineers in to mask the sound of a unnatually balanced 4-cylinder. If I have a choice between everyone else's turbo four and BMWs over-priced, electronic sound enhanced turbo for, I'll be saving some money when I purchase my next car. |
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Yep, just poorly chosen terminology especially when it's used together with the word "electronic". Basically it means that the air intake is somehow modified to make it sound better/louder. Would be interesting to know what the "electronic" part means. Maybe they'll put in a volume knob for it
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It does seem BMW is losing its identity of having smooth I-6s, some claim this is not part of the identity, I disagree.
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Yes, BMW previously used a "sound generator" in the Z4. However it was a purely mechanical device which amplified the engine bay noise and ducted it into the cabin. At least that was a real sound. Now they are going to electronically generate some frequency to simulate the sound of an I6 or whatever. Maybe they'll subliminally tell you to be easy on the throttle as well, as part of "Efficient Dynamics" and YOU WILL LIKE IT - Ja.
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Yeah, but that was just a tube coming thru the firewall so you could hear the 6-cylinder engine better in the cockpit. This appears to be more like some device to make a fake engine noise.
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Sure seems like a long-ass hood for a lil 4-cyl to be under it. I bet they could almost fit two under there...
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Spec is good. But every review says engine is too quite.
It can be good thing on 5 series but not in Z4. Even though spec looks good, not sure 4 cylinder on z4..
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It's a little presumptuous to say that the N52, which can propel the e9X from 0-60 in 6.1 seconds, is somehow for drivers who aren't enthusiasts, while no one would ever make that judgment about the M54 in the E46, which also clocks in with an official 0-60 time of 6.1. That's fast enough for fun and spirited driving and the fact there is a faster option today is irrelevant. I'd take 230 HP from an NA 6 over 240 or 245 FI 4 ... heat-sink during humid summers in tri-state area (especially w/ AC) is like to be extremely noticeable. The torque numbers are interesting, however...wonder if it'll compensate.
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A tape player with a speaker telling me that "Ohhh yea, you are pushing me so hard" when I step on the gas. Haha. What is next a speedometer telling me I am doing 120 when I am driving 30?
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People out there really like the 3.0L NA engine? I find it to be a joke every time I get a loaner. ...and the roar of the 3.0L NA? Really??
Everyone keeps beating on turbo failure and HPFP failures of the early 335s. People are crazy if they expected to buy a 2007 or 2008 335 and not have problems. Shoot if you played it right, you had your 2007 or 2008 335 replaced with a 2010 or 2011. BMW had to test the applicability of turbo engines on one of its platforms. Why not the higher end 3 and 5 (as turbos generally make a car more fun to drive)? Made sense to me. Refine that technology and then put it into use in the more mainstream cars. |
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