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Fun fact:DOE Announces $20 Million to Produce Clean Hydrogen From Nuclear Power This innovative approach will allow clean hydrogen to serve as a source for zero-carbon electricity and represent an important economic product for nuclear plants beyond electricity. https://www.energy.gov/articles/doe-...-nuclear-power |
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No, you don't understand. Hydrogen has to be stored at insane pressures...the tanks and systems in cars generally can't handle it, so it has to be gassed off and can't sit, might explode...Sure, if you fill it up you might get 300 miles...but you can't fill it up and then let it sit. Maybe they figured it out...but hydrogen has serious issues that EVs do not suffer from. I do see hydrogen as a possible fuel in some situations, like ships and possible long-range trucking/transportation, but I think this will be pretty limited as far as passenger vehicles, no big advantages that outweigh the huge disadvantages.
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With what I've read so far, any thoughts of a hydrogen powered road car gets me thinking of a bomb ready to go off and incinerating the occupants.
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Or a healthy balance of all the current available tech, the consumer can best choose whatever that suit their needs, whether that'd be ICE, PHEV, or EV, or even a small percentage of H2 or whatever else the world's boffins can come up with.
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07-25-2023, 08:20 AM | #3113 | |
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We can continue but none of this means much of anything without actual data. Virtually never ending supply of my replies on ICE fires if people want them.
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I think the issue with the fires is how difficult they are to put out and how dangerous they are once they catch fire, or have been in a minor accident and the risk of a damaged battery catching fire. Perhaps the severity of the fires gets more attention, but given that EV's make up less than 1% of vehicles on the roads there seems to be a high number of reported fires. |
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I agree putting them out is a problem but without data it's just a never post of news articles about an individual fire. Here's an interesting bit of data, (2018 but guessing overall number of fires doesn't change drastically year to year, as you pointed out EV's are a tiny part of the total) and it's why when I hear about one EV catching fire/in the news it is close to meaningless to me. - Quote:
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There are a lot of places in the world full of Oil, Haiti, the Dominican Republic, Jamaica, Cuba, Chile and Argentina in Patagonia, not to mention Antarctica, even coal. The problem is that not everyone is authorized to start operations there so as not to flood the market. (only a handful of people control that) I prefer to fill the tank in 5 to 10 minutes stop and have a range of 800km than to wait more than an hour for a range of 300km. (if I find where to recharge energy) And regarding climate zombies, do you think that giving money to politicians will clean up the planet?, Better ask them to stop making disposable things and reuse more |
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It's not just the EV fires which are near impossible to put out compared with say a petrol (gas) or diesel fire which can be put out quickly when the fire brigade arrives or by a hand held portable fire extinguisher if quick action is taken, (I carry one in my car which is in the trunk)
It's not knowing when or where an EV will suddenly erupt on fire so quickly for no known reason whether it's being driven, parked up or being charged, and the risk from electric bikes as seen in shown vids is also is very concerning. |
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this is just ignorant on so many levels... I have solar on my home and an EV as a daily driver, even if it is about saving money, it is still doing much more for the climate than doing nothing....i know some of you EV hating climate deniers try to find all these lame anecdotes about how they are more harmful than ICE vehicles, but you sound as ridiculous as flat earther's. The ideas behind it are laughable... the smartest scientists in the world could tell you all of the realities of how we are heading for an irreversable cataclysmic disaster and you still wouldnt belive it...sadly this has become political like most things, instead of just plain common sense and about doing the right thing. https://www.nytimes.com/article/clim...rming-faq.html subsidies?? lol yall act like EV's are the only thing being subsidized Size of Fossil Fuel Subsidies Globally, fossil fuel subsidies are were $5.9 trillion or 6.8 percent of GDP in 2020 and are expected to increase to 7.4 percent of GDP in 2025 as the share of fuel consumption in emerging markets (where price gaps are generally larger) continues to climb. https://www.eesi.org/papers/view/fac...societal-costs |
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dude, read some actual studies by actual scientest who don't have an agenda... read the MIT study on EV vs ICE and many others out there that basically say the same thing.... |
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