New Z4 track photos and interior shots shows DCT! (10/14/08) - New 2009 2010 BMW Z4

Jason · 10-14-2008, 10:04 AM

Make sure to see additional pics on page 3!

It's getting close to the LA Autoshow debut!!

BMW has dropped some camouflage from its Z4, giving us our best look yet at the new lines for BMW's revised roadster. We also managed to get some new interior shots, showing some retina-searing red leather and it's revised dashboard layout.

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Bimmer007 · 10-14-2008, 10:42 AM

Is that DCT I see there?!

DerekSelmanRacing · 10-14-2008, 10:47 AM

Looks like DCT to me!!! =)

exty328 · 10-14-2008, 10:50 AM

No, It is steptronic as found in the 6 series

mapezzul · 10-14-2008, 11:08 AM

That IS the DCT and will debut for US models the transmission. The marketing folks made that call.

Also worth noting is the electronic parking brake... and adjustable suspension settings (left of tranny).

e46e92love · 10-14-2008, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by mapezzul

That IS the DCT and will debut for US models the transmission. The marketing folks made that call.

Also worth noting is the electronic parking brake... and adjustable suspension settings (left of tranny).

Sorry guys, you may or may not be correct. That is the same setup in the 335i and the 535/550i sport transmission, which on those cars is a ZF planetary system. Not a DCT, but still a VERY FAST shifting auto with a torque converter capable of full lock up. Shift times sit around 100 milliseconds compared to 80 found in SMG II/III.

mapezzul · 10-14-2008, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by e46e92love

Sorry guys, you may or may not be correct. That is the same setup in the 335i and the 535/550i sport transmission, which on those cars is a ZF planetary system. Not a DCT, but still a VERY FAST shifting auto with a torque converter capable of full lock up. Shift times sit around 100 milliseconds compared to 80 found in SMG II/III.

Not quite, there is an inherent difference and here is a photo of a 335i E92 with the NEW non ///M DCT. The rest of the world gets this but the US. The non ///M DCT will debut in the Z for the US (marketing reasons supposedly). The Z was caught with this transmission a while ago but was not confirmed until recent.

mapezzul · 10-14-2008, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by e46e92love

Sorry guys, you may or may not be correct. That is the same setup in the 335i and the 535/550i sport transmission, which on those cars is a ZF planetary system. Not a DCT, but still a VERY FAST shifting auto with a torque converter capable of full lock up. Shift times sit around 100 milliseconds compared to 80 found in SMG II/III.

The 335 w/ ZF does not have the "joystick" only the DCT has it.

Blip Bavarian · 10-14-2008, 12:35 PM

6MT FTW!

BLITZ · 10-14-2008, 01:07 PM

How can a Z4 have no proper handbrake?

mapezzul · 10-14-2008, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BLITZ

How can a Z4 have no proper handbrake?

They wanted to add interior space, ie storage and clean up the lines of the middle console. I agree this is going to be interesting though....

Year's_End · 10-14-2008, 01:49 PM

I like the dash. That's definitely coral too.

exty328 · 10-14-2008, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Blip Bavarian

6MT FTW!

Bimmer007 · 10-14-2008, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by exty328

No, It is steptronic as found in the 6 series

beemah · 10-14-2008, 02:16 PM

looks great - the transmission is key. im gonna get this car.

however my 335 changing of gears with the paddles sucks without SMG

SMG is a click for gears, on the other hand the one i have currently, feels like a sedan to be honest with autoshifts each time your redline it in manual.

not precise by any means

Stoky · 10-14-2008, 02:34 PM

Please BMW change the side mirrors before production, and take off the ugly yellow plastic turn signals. PLEASE!!!

Shakal · 10-14-2008, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Stoky

Please BMW change the side mirrors before production, and take off the ugly yellow plastic turn signals. PLEASE!!!

Don't worry, turn signals in mirrors are fake

jgorman13 · 10-14-2008, 04:22 PM

ummm, THAT IS NOT THE DCT.

sport automatic as seen in the 6 series. same joystick as the new 5, 6, 7 series cars. nice try though

slipknot · 10-14-2008, 04:36 PM

I like that interior

Stoky · 10-14-2008, 04:48 PM

Forgive the ignorance, but would someone mind giving me a quick rundown on the similarities and differences between SMG, DCT, and steptronic.

Thanks.

mapezzul · 10-14-2008, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jgorman13

ummm, THAT IS NOT THE DCT.

sport automatic as seen in the 6 series. same joystick as the new 5, 6, 7 series cars. nice try though

Where are you getting that from? The picture above is a DCT transmission in the 3er and the Z will get it as well. The 3 series does NOT have the joystick as an option with the auto, only the DCT gets a joystick (different than the E-shifter)in 335 E92 in markets outside the US. The Z with normal auto will not see the joystick either.

Sources have stated this for about 5 months now.

I am not getting into a pissing contest here just trying to explain something in a fact based manner which some people appreciate...

Note this picture of the Z with the normal auto.

This is the E60 E-Shifter, different shape than the DCT seen in the previous post.

Bimmer Nerd · 10-14-2008, 05:28 PM

i dunno a DCT or not but i think that car is going to look great, the taillights are kinda looking like 6th series if you ask me but camo can be hiding it very well !!

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slipknot Lieutenant Drives: omega 2.5 Join Date: May 2008 Location: rotterdam Posts: 413 iTrader: (0)	I like that interior __________________ thats a huge bitch

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DerekSelmanRacing Private First Class Drives: 05 Z4 3.0 SMG, 11 M3 DCT ZCP Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Lake Havasu City, AZ. Posts: 175 iTrader: (0)	Looks like DCT to me!!! =)

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exty328 New Member Drives: e92 328i Join Date: May 2008 Location: chicago Posts: 26 iTrader: (0)	No, It is steptronic as found in the 6 series

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mapezzul Special Agent Drives: Depends on the day! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bavaria Posts: 1,728 iTrader: (1)	That IS the DCT and will debut for US models the transmission. The marketing folks made that call. Also worth noting is the electronic parking brake... and adjustable suspension settings (left of tranny).

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Blip Bavarian salivator Drives: E92 M3 & E30 LS1 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: El Paso, Texas Posts: 518 iTrader: (0)	6MT FTW!

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beemah Captain Drives: Porsche Cayman S Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: CT Posts: 612 iTrader: (0)	looks great - the transmission is key. im gonna get this car. however my 335 changing of gears with the paddles sucks without SMG SMG is a click for gears, on the other hand the one i have currently, feels like a sedan to be honest with autoshifts each time your redline it in manual. not precise by any means

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Stoky Private Drives: Not a Z4 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Chicago Posts: 84 iTrader: (0)	Please BMW change the side mirrors before production, and take off the ugly yellow plastic turn signals. PLEASE!!!

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jgorman13 Lieutenant Drives: 2005 Z4 3.0i, 2008 C300 Sport Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: NYC Posts: 528 iTrader: (0)	ummm, THAT IS NOT THE DCT. sport automatic as seen in the 6 series. same joystick as the new 5, 6, 7 series cars. nice try though

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Stoky Private Drives: Not a Z4 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Chicago Posts: 84 iTrader: (0)	Forgive the ignorance, but would someone mind giving me a quick rundown on the similarities and differences between SMG, DCT, and steptronic. Thanks.

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Bimmer Nerd I \| L Photography Drives: E46 M3 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Los angeles, ~818~ Posts: 7,420 iTrader: (11)	i dunno a DCT or not but i think that car is going to look great, the taillights are kinda looking like 6th series if you ask me but camo can be hiding it very well !!

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