BMW Z2: New reports about its future - New 2009 2010 BMW Z4

Mark · 09-16-2008, 07:47 PM

Reports out of germany are surfacing about the Z2.

The car will be based off the 1-series in order to create a very light and fast on its feet roadster which which come exclusivly in a ragtop configuration in order to keep weight down and to distance itself from its older Z4 brother which is moving to a convertable hardtop design. Some of the plans are even calling for a purely manual top in order to further reduce weight (although an automatic top function will likely be available as an option).

Going along these lines, the car will be designed around the company's versatile 4 cylinder engine lines including the 1.6l that will be shared between BMW, Mini and Peugeot.

In terms of styling this car is said to be very sharply designed and will make the current Z4 look like a bubble, the angles will be as razor sharp as possible, and the car will be very distinctive. This part of the report is the most speculative and should be taken with a grain of salt.

Hopes are the car would be come out in 2011 and the BMW board of directors is set to make a final decision on this car within the next few months.

YYdoodle · 09-16-2008, 09:53 PM

I hope the board approves this car. The next Z4 is goin to be even more expensive. Would be nice to see a more affordable bare bones tossable roadster. Would be like BMWs version of the S2000 hopefully. Perfect car for me.

aut0sh0cker · 09-16-2008, 10:13 PM

this looks more like it! another victory for the germans!

Bimmer Nerd · 09-16-2008, 11:10 PM

wow people seem to be basing every future bmw vehicle on CS concept !! i know thats what a lot of people predict but i am pretty sure that its not going to last until like 2012 !!!!!

Mikewarlover · 09-17-2008, 12:33 AM

Hope they put a twin turbo four cylinder engine into it then it would be fucking awesome

155MPH · 09-17-2008, 01:14 AM

I like the pic....

Year's_End · 09-17-2008, 01:15 AM

So it'll be competing with what now?

A Miata? An S2000? An Elise?

Can't be a TT fighter, nor a Boxster competitor.

Sounds like it'll be in a class of its own.

DOCTOR 3VIL · 09-17-2008, 01:47 AM

slipknot · 09-17-2008, 08:30 AM

another long to wait small roadster , wait wait..2011? what? I thought at least mid 2009 , they are such idiots , thats too far away and seriously long time to wait for a small roadster , how can it be smaller than a Z4..I dont get it..bmw , I got two words for u , Suck It

Jimmeh · 09-17-2008, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by slipknot

another long to wait small roadster , wait wait..2011? what? I thought at least mid 2009 , they are such idiots , thats too far away and seriously long time to wait for a small roadster , how can it be smaller than a Z4..I dont get it..bmw , I got two words for u , Suck It

*cough HATER cough*

I personally think it looks pretty good. Small and aggressive.

Kiemyster · 09-17-2008, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by slipknot

another long to wait small roadster , wait wait..2011? what? I thought at least mid 2009 , they are such idiots , thats too far away and seriously long time to wait for a small roadster , how can it be smaller than a Z4..I dont get it..bmw , I got two words for u , Suck It

nobody likes you, and thats ok. i do agree though, how much smaller can that car get?!!??!?!!? god damn! come on..... for real?

epbrown · 09-17-2008, 10:25 AM

That is one of the worst photoshops I've seen in a while.

louz4 · 09-17-2008, 10:30 AM

Well I like it. I had an 01 miata and the car is one of my all time fav's. I can't wait to see the z2 when it becomes a reality. If it looks as good as this latest rendition, I'll save a spot for the m version in my garage.

Darkkilla · 09-17-2008, 12:47 PM

this picture is photoshoped lol. Any ways its cool but reminds me toooo much of the miata which is a kinda downfall but i assume itll look better if it does get released. and the M version of it would probably look insane and preform pretty nicely.

louz4 · 09-17-2008, 01:20 PM

I realize its a photoshop pic but I like it. I don't see too much similarity to the miata. If I read the Car & Driver article correctly the miata is one of the cars targeted by the Z2. Light and agile is a great combination that has worked for cars like the miata and its inspiration the lotus elan.
Some have commented that it (the Z2) seems like a step backwards, but I don't think so. I think BMW is simply trying to increase sales of the two seater part of their business. And plan to offer at least two such cars. Which is good news for all of us.

synclastica_86 · 09-17-2008, 01:21 PM

Looks like an affortable weekend toy to me... It'll be a nice addition to my garage.

epbrown · 09-17-2008, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by louz4

If I read the Car & Driver article correctly the miata is one of the cars targeted by the Z2. Light and agile is a great combination that has worked for cars like the miata and its inspiration the lotus elan.

Wht makes this so stupid is that BMW has been down this road before, and not too long ago. The Z3 was supposed to be their Miata competitor, and was caught in a Catch-22 - it was too expensive to attract Miata buyers and too slow to woo Boxster buyers. BMW added the 6-cylinder engines as quickly as possible.

Nothing has changed since then. The Z2 can't compete with the Miata and Solstice market unless it's close to their price range, and there's no way it will be that cheap. The Z4 will bump up inprice like the 3-series did, the Z2 will cost as much as the Z4 Mk1 the way the 1-series costs what the E46s did, and once again you've got a car that overpriced and underpowered.

louz4 · 09-17-2008, 02:35 PM

I agree with the comments on the Z3, but I understand that the entry level Z2 will be under $30,000.

ase2dais · 09-17-2008, 03:22 PM

that would be a bargain in todays BM prices

pmeloche · 09-18-2008, 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epbrown

Wht makes this so stupid is that BMW has been down this road before, and not too long ago. The Z3 was supposed to be their Miata competitor, and was caught in a Catch-22 - it was too expensive to attract Miata buyers and too slow to woo Boxster buyers. BMW added the 6-cylinder engines as quickly as possible.

Nothing has changed since then. The Z2 can't compete with the Miata and Solstice market unless it's close to their price range, and there's no way it will be that cheap. The Z4 will bump up inprice like the 3-series did, the Z2 will cost as much as the Z4 Mk1 the way the 1-series costs what the E46s did, and once again you've got a car that overpriced and underpowered.

I would agree with you except for one thing. In Canada, a fully loaded MX-5 GT with the PRHT is 45K. I think BMW can come up with a Z2 in that range.

Corsis · 09-19-2008, 04:43 PM

Hope this gets the greenlight. Not that photoshop, but the car.

A nice true small roadster with the Mini Cooper S engine would be awesome.

chaz58 · 09-22-2008, 07:40 PM

If the board hasn't approved it yet, it will be hard to get it to market in two years. That would be a miracle in itself.

I wonder if it will be cheaper than a 1 series convert.

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YYdoodle Captain Drives: E92 M3 fanatic Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: MD Posts: 666 iTrader: (0)	I hope the board approves this car. The next Z4 is goin to be even more expensive. Would be nice to see a more affordable bare bones tossable roadster. Would be like BMWs version of the S2000 hopefully. Perfect car for me.

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aut0sh0cker meh Drives: E92 335i, 997.2 C4S Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: 91362 Posts: 1,758 iTrader: (2)	this looks more like it! another victory for the germans!

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slipknot Lieutenant Drives: omega 2.5 Join Date: May 2008 Location: rotterdam Posts: 413 iTrader: (0)	another long to wait small roadster , wait wait..2011? what? I thought at least mid 2009 , they are such idiots , thats too far away and seriously long time to wait for a small roadster , how can it be smaller than a Z4..I dont get it..bmw , I got two words for u , Suck It

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louz4 First Lieutenant Drives: 2006 Z4 Roadster Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 307 iTrader: (0)	Well I like it. I had an 01 miata and the car is one of my all time fav's. I can't wait to see the z2 when it becomes a reality. If it looks as good as this latest rendition, I'll save a spot for the m version in my garage.

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louz4 First Lieutenant Drives: 2006 Z4 Roadster Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 307 iTrader: (0)	I realize its a photoshop pic but I like it. I don't see too much similarity to the miata. If I read the Car & Driver article correctly the miata is one of the cars targeted by the Z2. Light and agile is a great combination that has worked for cars like the miata and its inspiration the lotus elan. Some have commented that it (the Z2) seems like a step backwards, but I don't think so. I think BMW is simply trying to increase sales of the two seater part of their business. And plan to offer at least two such cars. Which is good news for all of us.

09-17-2008, 02:35 PM	#18
louz4 First Lieutenant Drives: 2006 Z4 Roadster Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 307 iTrader: (0)	I agree with the comments on the Z3, but I understand that the entry level Z2 will be under $30,000.

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