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      12-17-2012, 03:56 PM   #1
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[updated!! successful!!]smart Top: Lost faith.. what do I do now...

Here's some update since last my SmartTop installation hazard..(see here:http://e89.zpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=781671)

Just got back from the dealer, turn out the reason is only.. "loose". see pic..

But after this.. I kinda lost faith to install it my self....
afraid of getting into the same situation again...
what do i do now ....

-------------------------- 12/19 update -------------
So I gave it another shot today, and the first time the same issue happened again. although I'm pretty sure I make the connector "go all the way in" --- except not so hard that I might accidentally break anything ..

but this time I didn't panic go back and press it really hard again!
and I hear a beautiful "click" and the light flashes!

I know it should work now!!! and it did!!!! YYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!
so for everyone is going to install the smartTop module, do press REALLY HARD!!!


so I tested the functions, all works as programmed except one small issue:
the hardtop controller/button in the car are functionally reversed!!
dont know how that happened, if anyone can tell me how to fixed that would be nice(perfectionism ) if not.. i'll just have to bare with it ...

and btw, the modules seems to erased my stored settings, like seat position, programmable buttons, that's normal right ?
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      12-17-2012, 04:01 PM   #2
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you can do it but youll have to dbl check everything and take your time. of course you could always pay an indy shop to install.
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      12-17-2012, 04:06 PM   #3
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Lucky escape if you ask me... 'connector half off from factory' yeah right. Amazed they believed that and not that you'd been 'fiddling'...

I know of no one that has had an issue with the smart top unless they didnt install it correctly.
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      12-17-2012, 05:29 PM   #4
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Could always have a shop do it if you don't want to deal with it.
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      12-17-2012, 06:53 PM   #5
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It's not that hard to install. Fifteen minute job. At least now, if it happens again, you know what the issue is, and you can just push the connector together. I gather you're not mechanically inclined?
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      12-17-2012, 07:10 PM   #6
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As others have written above ... when you attach that connector, you have to REALLY be sure that it is fully seated. This is true for when you attach the connector WITH or WITHOUT the SmartTop.

I know now what it feels like to have it fully seated. It goes "all the way in". When it is not fully seated, it does not go all the way in, but it feels like it might be right.

Also, at least for my car, when it goes all the way in, I see the lights blinking, and I hear a few clicks. That's how I know that it is working.
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      12-17-2012, 08:07 PM   #7
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I guess it all depends on how badly you want to open the roof while the car is moving? (or whatever benefit that thing was supposed to have)

I never thought that part was worth it so I personally would return the part and move on to something else.
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Just like I said.... You didn't correctly and securely make the connections to the harness and module...
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      12-17-2012, 10:33 PM   #9
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It's not only opening the top...(actually new z4 can open top up to 25mph by default.)
there're quite some convenient changes like:
unlock the door/fold mirrors automatically when you stop/start engine.
unlock both side doors when you put your hand under the handle.
etc etc..
these're all program setting, no idea why BMW made them so stupid by default.


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I guess it all depends on how badly you want to open the roof while the car is moving? (or whatever benefit that thing was supposed to have)

I never thought that part was worth it so I personally would return the part and move on to something else.
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It's not only opening the top...(actually new z4 can open top up to 25mph by default.)
there're quite some convenient changes like:
unlock the door/fold mirrors automatically when you stop/start engine.
unlock both side doors when you put your hand under the handle.
etc etc..
these're all program setting, no idea why BMW made them so stupid by default.
Most of those things can be coded if you have comfort access. Some of them can be coded even if you don't have CA. I don't have CA and I can fold/unfold mirrors with my fob.
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      12-17-2012, 10:55 PM   #11
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I do have comfort access. how can I code it ?
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Most of those things can be coded if you have comfort access. Some of them can be coded even if you don't have CA. I don't have CA and I can fold/unfold mirrors with my fob.
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      12-17-2012, 11:11 PM   #12
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I do have comfort access. how can I code it ?
You need to find someone with the right data cable, or you can buy one for about $100. The software is free, but the procedures are pretty archaic and unintuitive. You will also need a laptop running Windows. There is a coding section on e90post. There is also a BMW coding forum. That's basically where the coding knowledge is collectively accumulated. There is no manual for this. I don't know how personally (nor do I have the right equipment to do it), but I had a friend who is local do it for me. He did my E92 335i and I was able to raise/lower my window, close/open sunroof, and fold/unfold mirrors with my keyfob. We had a much harder time with my Z4 for some reason, and we suspect it's because I don't have CA (the 335i didn't either though). So far we've only been able to get the remote mirror folding/unfolding working. But that's all I really wanted (I don't need/want remote top).

I think the remote window/top is part of CA though, according to the manual:
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you can code on your own (not recommended if you don't know what you're doing)
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=480261

or find someone local that can do it for you, most likely for a small fee.
Here's an example of a local shop for coding
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=534142
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If you we're close by I'd install it for your for free... Or at least a beer or two. You got the module already... You don't need to mess with coding...
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      12-19-2012, 12:57 AM   #15
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thx all...
I'll give it another try tomorrow...
finger crossed...
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just take your time. push it all the way in and then latch the harness. you should be fine
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So I gave it another shot today, and the first time the same issue happened again. although I'm pretty sure I make the connector "go all the way in" --- except not so hard that I might accidentally break anything ..

but this time I didn't panic go back and press it really hard again!
and I hear a beautiful "click" and the light flashes!

I know it should work now!!! and it did!!!! YYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!
so for everyone is going to install the smartTop module, do press REALLY HARD!!!


so I tested the functions, all works as programmed except one small issue:
the hardtop controller/button in the car are functionally reversed!!
dont know how that happened, if anyone can tell me how to fixed that would be nice(perfectionism ) if not.. i'll just have to bare with it ...

and btw, the modules seems to erased my stored settings, like seat position, programmable buttons, that's normal right ?
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so I tested the functions, all works as programmed except one small issue:
the hardtop controller/button in the car are functionally reversed!!
dont know how that happened, if anyone can tell me how to fixed that would be nice(perfectionism ) if not.. i'll just have to bare with it ...

and btw, the modules seems to erased my stored settings, like seat position, programmable buttons, that's normal right ?
I believe this is a toggle setting in the programming.
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This is a triumph! I'm making a note here:

HUGE SUCCESS!!
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grats... glad you finally got it working correctly.... there is a reverse button option that you can turn on or off... its specifically for the 3series button since its a single Toggle button that you pull or push (much like our window switches), unlike our two separate buttons. Sort of wish our buttons were like that and were beside the shifter like it was in our previous E46 convertible...closer and easier to reach.
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Thanks man, is this "reverse button option that you can turn on or off" is defined in the smartTop module or the car?

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grats... glad you finally got it working correctly.... there is a reverse button option that you can turn on or off... its specifically for the 3series button since its a single Toggle button that you pull or push (much like our window switches), unlike our two separate buttons. Sort of wish our buttons were like that and were beside the shifter like it was in our previous E46 convertible...closer and easier to reach.
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function #8.... what did you set that to? It should be OFF... you probably set it to ON that's why your switches are reversed.
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