2012 Z4 Changes and Pricing Released. New Canyon Brown M Sport Package

parkstaff · 07-28-2011, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Rolf-Dieter

I've read that cars delivered to the North American market will not have this option, and if they do there is a switch (right beside the start button) to turn this feature on or off.

ROLF... The US spec cars will have the feature of the start/stop technology...There WILL be a button however to turn the feature off if you dont like it!

I am checking on rates and residuals for the 2012... Will keep you guys posted as soon as they get released!

STIHLBOLTS · 07-28-2011, 06:14 PM

OK, let me get this straight.

Keeping the hard top, getting rid of the in line 6 that has proven itself over and over for a measly 4 cylinder and a dual mouse fly wheel?

BMW is going backwards on this car.

1. Get rid of the hard top crap, its a rag top car.
2. Put one awesome motor in it not two.
3. Fix the rear end, it's too fat.
4. Make a M Model
5. Call me when all the above happens.

Happy Motoring.

red-sauerkraut · 07-28-2011, 06:26 PM

ChOy BoY · 07-28-2011, 08:41 PM

Is the 35i now the N55?

red-sauerkraut · 07-28-2011, 09:02 PM

Correct!

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Originally Posted by ChOy BoY

Is the 35i now the N55?

burrito007 · 07-28-2011, 10:07 PM

Amazing that a BASE Z4 now in 2012 costs what a Z4M cost in 2006 (counting discounts at the time).

jussayin

persian54 · 07-29-2011, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by wallstreet

Amazing that new I-4 28i's base is $48,650 whereas current I-6 30i is $47,450. So, it cost more to own a 4 banger. errrr....

a 4 banger that is quicker and more efficient...

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Originally Posted by burrito007

Amazing that a BASE Z4 now in 2012 costs what a Z4M cost in 2006 (counting discounts at the time).

jussayin

Well you have to take into account about 4% inflation per year, plus the loss of US dollar vs the Euro.

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Originally Posted by STIHLBOLTS

OK, let me get this straight.

Keeping the hard top, getting rid of the in line 6 that has proven itself over and over for a measly 4 cylinder and a dual mouse fly wheel?

BMW is going backwards on this car.

1. Get rid of the hard top crap, its a rag top car.
2. Put one awesome motor in it not two.
3. Fix the rear end, it's too fat.
4. Make a M Model
5. Call me when all the above happens.

Happy Motoring.

Sorry I can't agree with you

I will never ever buy another rag top, that's yesterday's technology.

I'm frustrated the new S5 is a rag top, the new 6 is a rag top, the new E vert is a rag top...really aggravates me

I wanted to get a E vert instead of another Z4 (I like to change things up, I love the new Z4 but I like having different cars, hence why I lease), but it's a damn rag top so it's useless.

I do have to agree that having a M model would be great

But you have to have 2 motors in a model line up. One that's fast, one that's not as fast :P

Oh Captain My Captain · 07-29-2011, 01:38 AM

I'm trading in my 2010 Z4 for a 2012 Porsche Cayenne S this Saturday....

ZheHbKa · 07-29-2011, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Rolf-Dieter

I've read that cars delivered to the North American market will not have this option, and if they do there is a switch (right beside the start button) to turn this feature on or off.

thats true, i heard that theres a switch to turn that feature off

skier · 07-29-2011, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by burrito007

Amazing that a BASE Z4 now in 2012 costs what a Z4M cost in 2006 (counting discounts at the time).

jussayin

That's why it was a slow seller and BMW had to kick in some major incentives.

Mr. ///M3 RD · 07-29-2011, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Oh Captain My Captain

I'm trading in my 2010 Z4 for a 2012 Porsche Cayenne S this Saturday....

Congratulations ... I hear it is a fine car

esqu1re · 07-29-2011, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by skier

That's why it was a slow seller and BMW had to kick in some major incentives.

I've actually heard that in 2007, people were able to purchase their almost fully optioned M coupes for less than 45,000. Definitely a car whose production ultimately exceeded its demand.

1013mm · 07-29-2011, 12:41 PM

dam still overpriced

I want one. . . . .

theonlynameleft · 07-29-2011, 07:12 PM

You have no idea how many times I've heard that about the garage. It's my gf's moms house (and stepdad). The stupid thing is it USED to be a 2 car garage before he took it over and built some stupid desk so he can work on his bike (bicycle not a motor bike). And all his crap is on the other side so now it's a 1 car garage. If you think that ceiling is bad you should see the rest :s

Thanks for the compliment though

Wet sanding and buffing sounds like either it'll be expensive or if I attempted it I'd screw it up royally

STOOF · 07-29-2011, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by theonlynameleft

You have no idea how many times I've heard that about the garage. It's my gf's moms house (and stepdad). The stupid thing is it USED to be a 2 car garage before he took it over and built some stupid desk so he can work on his bike (bicycle not a motor bike). And all his crap is on the other side so now it's a 1 car garage. If you think that ceiling is bad you should see the rest :s

Thanks for the compliment though

Wet sanding and buffing sounds like either it'll be expensive or if I attempted it I'd screw it up royally

uhhhhhh, what?

Imola.ZHP · 07-31-2011, 11:14 AM

$50k for a turbo4?

Damn that sounds like a tough sale in the US. Just saying...

x97Melbourne · 07-31-2011, 10:52 PM

So.....the new base engine is 240HP instead of 255HP? I guess the new engine is lighter.....but you are loosing 15 HP.....how is this better performance? Just asking.

MsCaballoVerde · 07-31-2011, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Wraith.

...It's a bit annoying for those us who had to pay for every one of those items up until now...I cannot help but feeling a bit ripped off...I can tell you with all certainty that when you buy a Mercedes not only do they offer you more standard features but those that you do buy you can be confident that they will not be free the next year.

Or, as they say in German: "Die Reinste Freude Ist Die Schadenfreude"

ZheHbKa · 08-01-2011, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by x97Melbourne

So.....the new base engine is 240HP instead of 255HP? I guess the new engine is lighter.....but you are loosing 15 HP.....how is this better performance? Just asking.

new engine is 260 hp replacing 230 hp 6cyl

bmwmick · 08-01-2011, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ZheHbKa

new engine is 260 hp replacing 230 hp 6cyl

No, it's 240 HP and 260 Tq and still a 4 cyl. Gives new meaning to Z (4)

ZheHbKa · 08-01-2011, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by bmwmick

No, it's 240 HP and 260 Tq and still a 4 cyl. Gives new meaning to Z (4)

yeah, mixed up

STIHLBOLTS · 08-01-2011, 01:24 PM

Its still a 4 cyc. I don't care how much extra stuff you put on it, it still don't beat displacement.

If I wanted a car with a 4 banger I would have bought a Honda.

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