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Since you’re a E86 owner, I don’t think BMW is going to have much left for you. Even my M2C doesn’t have that seating position or packaging of a true sports car. I am hoping to drive a Supra sometime but I passed on them because no manual. If the pandemic didn’t throw a wrench into things I’d have gotten a 997.2 C2S or 981 Cayman S and called it a day. I’m actually looking forward to an electric Boxster. It could be awesome. |
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Yeah, but there are levels. In my Z4M you could wind it out a bit longer and end up at 100 instead of 130 or 140 like you would be in a G80.
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07-05-2022, 11:44 AM | #424 | |
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I am not particularly excited about an electric 911, but I do think an electric roadster could be interesting. If the weight can be kept down enough, the very low center of gravity and torque could make for a fun car. It won't be a Spyder or GT4 experience with the engine, but it could be its own thing. |
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07-05-2022, 11:45 AM | #425 | |
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Converted ICEV platforms only get half the benefit of going EV. The other half (getting S class interior space in an E class sized car-- E.g. the model S can have 3 seat rows AND a FRUNK) they miss out on completely. i4 is not a bespoke EV platform, and therefore missing half the benefit IMO. ... and it's almost 4700 lbs(!) Also, assuming you meant me, not sure what I said you thought was insulting...
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For me, the EV to beat is the Lucid Air. It is the only car (so far) that is good dynamically (fun fact: e39 M5 was their dynamics target, and a significant number of the engineering team personally owns e39 M5s) AND takes advantage of EV packaging benefits (S class interior space in an E class sized car). When they release it with a smaller battery (lighter, more back seat leg room, cheaper, 500 miles of range is silly), it's probably in my future.
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My 2022 model 3 is still holding up strong after like 3 months. Meanwhile my 6 month old m3 already has 2 rattles. |
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I can't decide if this post is meant ironically or not...
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Funny enough, I just got my registration renewal in the mail for the EV we got rid of. I noticed the fee seemed high, $179, not including the taxes. Below that in small text read "Registration fee includes a $130 electric charge." Huh...they gotta make that road/gas tax back somehow I guess.
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BMW is not. Tesla is thought of as having bad build quality.
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BMW hasn't had great build quality in a few decades. Sure the leather may feel nice, but I include reliability as a part of build quality.
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I'd need a reference for that.
When it comes to chassis and engine, pretty darn good, but Toyota or Honda level good? Nope. Better handling and faster, but not "fit and finish" better. I guess it depends on what you mean by "build quality". Look and work as designed for a long long time? No, that's Toyota and Honda. Work beautifully like a finely tuned symphony when new, and then stuff starts breaking 1-2 years in? That's BMW. Shawn |
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Wasn't there a rumour that Toyota was handed BMW's engine for the Supra, stuck it on a test bench and BMW said yeah she is good to go..... Toyota then shot back with an arm long list of shit that needed changing, mostly plastic parts to metal? Also BMW kept questioning why they kept relentlessly testing it day in, day out, under different simulated conditions
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That's why I don't ever see me having a BMW again unless its a new one on lease or I somehow stumble across a cheap E30 worth saving. |
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