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Diesel were too economical, and lasted too long so they created “diesel gate” where they needed super special equipment that totally showed them letting off too much emissions - right in time for EV to be the big push.
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How did we get from the point where the car was a form of transportation and expression and family and pleasure to now a guilt and a source of carbon and harm . There's something fundamentally gone wrong in a short period of time where the very thing that's helped us and that we revere are to be despised of.
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The Davos gang have been teeing up the 'reset', if you will, for years. Here's a good place to start. https://www.ge.com/news/reports/the-...how-to-respond
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Yup we are being screwed over here too, George Harrison sang once that it will take a whole lot of money.. and put our childrens futures on a course to pay extortionate taxes.
https://www.fairfueluk.com/2030-Ban.html ''This policy will simply not work and has no democratic legitimacy'' Last edited by M5Rick; 04-25-2023 at 02:38 PM.. |
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A manual transmission can be set to "comfort", "sport", and "track" modes simply by the technique and speed at which you shift it; it doesn't need "modes", modes are for manumatics that try to behave like a real 3-pedal manual transmission. If you can money-shift it, it's a manual transmission. "Yeah, but NO ONE puts an automatic trans shift knob on a manual transmission."
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Putting the politics aside, this is where technology is going. Whether we like it or not, the future will be electric. There will come a point where the EVs will have far better performance than anything an ICE vehicle can match. They will be faster, have more features, better driving dynamics, more convenient to charge, drive longer on a charge than a fill-up, more reliable and easier to maintain. And it seems, except for the petroleum industry most people want this evolution to take place. Those who want to stick to ICE vehicles will still be able to for the rest of our lifetimes. You may have to pay a few bucks per gallon in additional taxes, but this is not going to be an issue for someone who is shelling out the kind of money needed to drive a BMW. Look at what happened to cigarettes. It used to be a $1 a pack and because of all the taxes it is closer to $15 today. Guess what, those who are passionate about smoking still do. This won't be any different.
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There will def be ice post 2035 although a used market. Once people see all the advantages an ev brings at that time, will be like ok fine I guess this might be better after all. It’s simple psychology. People don’t like change. But change is good. And we’re going to run with it no matter if we want to or not. 2035 on the move!
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A lot of us here, are on here solely because of BMW's performance vehicles. Majority of tech has trickled down to road cars via racing. My first track car was a BMW...why I fell in love with the brand. How does the saying go..."Race on Sunday, Sell on Monday". |
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Please reconcile the following contradictory reasoning:
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2022 - Mary Barra...we will catch and pass Tesla by 2025.
Today - Mary Barra in earnings call...GM plans to produce 400,000 EVs over the course of 2022, 2023, and the first half of 2024. Meanwhile, Tesla 2022 total one year production - 1.37 million. Also Bolt production announced to be ending. 20,670 EVs delivered in 2023 Q1. 19,700 of those were Bolts. 2 Hummers and 968 Lyriqs delivered. GM Ultium platform EV scaling is embarrassing. If this keeps up, Mary Barra won't last at GM. |
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This rush to EVs is nothing but a political play due to lobbyists and creating a whole new industry to make lots of money. EVs definitely have a purpose and should be a vital segment like “Convertible” but they should not be forced on people. Free market is the only way, whenever governments intervene then bad things happen. |
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The problem with the arguments you guys are having and i know you're trying your best to come up with any scenario to give you guys false reassurance that this transition will never work, is that you're judging results of TODAY. EVERY SINGLE thing improves as each day passes. You can't get anything new because the day you get something, the next day there's an improvement of that version already happening. This is with anything. Cars, phones, tv's, housing, everything. For some odd reason, you guys are scared of this so called 2035 ban that you must think, when we all say, "HAPPY NEW YEAR!!! It's 2035!!" that poof, magically all ICE cars disappear from the streets, any ICE cars at dealerships disappear and whatever ICE cars you have at your house are taken away by the feds. That won't happen. If this ban is set in stone in 2035, you will have a gigantic used market to drool over. Maybe by then all your favorite cars will be easily attainable because gas cars will be a thing of the past as EV's will have GREATLY improved by then, in terms of charging times, weight, performance and overall tech, that i bet almost everyone who have posted in this thread, would have an electric car. Maybe even more than 1. I love EV and i love gas. If the ban is set in stone in 2035, i already have my forever ICE car(s) that i'll keep until i'm old and/or too bored to want to keep and i'll just drive my EV's until i die. Let's go elon!
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If only a comprehensive viable charging solution was going to come in 2035 too. They will call it the "un-inventium solution", because it's about to be invented, any day now... Build it and they will come. Well, good luck on that guys. Last edited by chad86tsi; 04-25-2023 at 06:19 PM.. |
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Are we just going to buy all of them new EVs and a dedicated street charger. How about all the NYCHA / Section 8 buildings. |
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