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      04-04-2020, 07:01 PM   #3983
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Even USA Today says Obama failed to replenish N95 masks
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...le/5114319002/
It appears they did. What's the excuse for the last 3.5 years? The economy was so hot.
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Coronavirus: India doctors 'spat at and attacked' https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-52151141
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What's the consensus on why Michigan was hit hard? Not a huge population, doesn't have too much density, and not really a huge travel hub.
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It appears they did. What's the excuse for the last 3.5 years? The economy was so hot.
I can't defend trump here. Just pointing out that Obama (not just Trump) both dropped the ball.
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What's the consensus on why Michigan was hit hard? Not a huge population, doesn't have too much density, and not really a huge travel hub.
Oh, three major automakers and their tier one suppliers, all global companies? Might be something in that, no?
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I can't defend trump here. Just pointing out that Obama (not just Trump) both dropped the ball.
Not just Obama, but I posit even our larger society as a whole (myself included). I think pre-COVID-19, there was a pervading sense of complacency and invincibility that these viruses (MERS, SARS, Ebola) were third-world (or less developed nations) diseases. Sure there was the seasonal flu, but everyone got the flu, and no one we really knew died from the flu.

And all it took was a virus with a 1% mortality rate to bring this country to its knees in a span of a mere 2 months, at the height of one of the greatest bull markets in US history.
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And all it took was a virus with a 1% mortality rate to bring this country to its knees in a span of a mere 2 months, at the height of one of the greatest bull markets in US history.
It’s not the mortality rate. It’s the hospitalization rate.
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Numbers from Italy. Median age of those who died was 80 with 50% having at least 3 or more comorbidities. Numbers from 3 weeks ago: average age of positively-tested deceased is +/-81 years. 10% of the deceased are over 90 years old. 90% of the deceased are over 70 years old.

https://www.epicentro.iss.it/en/coro...april_2020.pdf
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Oh, three major automakers and their tier one suppliers, all global companies? Might be something in that, no?
That makes sense, I was looking for any types of festivals or similar that they may of had. The only thing that I could find is the primaries they had on March 10th. Possible that everyone standing in lines to vote caused a big issue.
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That makes sense, I was looking for any types of festivals or similar that they may of had. The only thing that I could find is the primaries they had on March 10th. Possible that everyone standing in lines to vote caused a big issue.
States that had gone ahead with primaries in March were stupid. I wonder what effect this will have on the election in November? Absentee ballot for me...

Imagine if we had a robust electronic system. This is like the one legit application for public blockchain outside of currency.
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What's the consensus on why Michigan was hit hard? Not a huge population, doesn't have too much density, and not really a huge travel hub.
Sometimes you just get unlucky, too. From the nextstrain data, it looks like somehow NYC avoided large numbers of early infection from Chinese travelers only to import large numbers of infected people from Europe.
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Numbers from Italy. Median age of those who died was 80 with 50% having at least 3 or more comorbidities. Numbers from 3 weeks ago: average age of positively-tested deceased is +/-81 years. 10% of the deceased are over 90 years old. 90% of the deceased are over 70 years old.

https://www.epicentro.iss.it/en/coro...april_2020.pdf
That's quite a disparity between men and women.
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I'm glad I don't live in India!


Coronavirus: India doctors 'spat at and attacked' https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-52151141
India is amazing in some aspects and terrible in others.

When I was reading about the recent Ebola outbreaks when they happened I was just in awe of the heroism that the medical workers showed. I like to consider myself a decent person, but there is no way I could see myself flying to Africa to treat Ebola in places with no infrastructure while under-equipped and in constant danger of being attacked by militias or paranoid locals.


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That's quite a disparity between men and women.
Yeah, this virus definitely hits men harder. It's not the only virus that does that. The first thing that comes to mind is testosterone, but I had read a paper years ago that talked about this effect in another virus (forget which). They concluded that it was more likely to be lower estrogen in males and that the higher levels of estrogen in women were protective.

Birth control pills for men?

I'd deal with moobs in exchange for not dying.

Who knows what the cause is in this particular disease, though. Could be cardiac-related. Women have lower levels of heart disease than men of the same age and there appears to be cardiac involvement in some cases as well as increased mortality with hypertension.

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I can't defend trump here. Just pointing out that Obama (not just Trump) both dropped the ball.
Actually goes back to Bush. Pretty much all recent administrations fell down on prepping for what seemed like an existential threat.
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October last year.
October 18, 2019 - New York:
"Event 201 - A Global Pandemic Exercise
The Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security in partnership with the World Economic Forum and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation hosted Event 201, a high-level pandemic exercise on October 18, 2019, in New York, NY. The exercise illustrated areas where public/private partnerships will be necessary during the response to a severe pandemic in order to diminish large-scale economic and societal consequences.
In recent years, the world has seen a growing number of epidemic events, amounting to approximately 200 events annually. These events are increasing, and they are disruptive to health, economies, and society. Managing these events already strains global capacity, even absent a pandemic threat. Experts agree that it is only a matter of time before one of these epidemics becomes global—a pandemic with potentially catastrophic consequences. A severe pandemic, which becomes “Event 201,” would require reliable cooperation among several industries, national governments, and key international institutions."

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In October 2019, the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security hosted a pandemic tabletop exercise called Event 201 with partners, the World Economic Forum and the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. Recently, the Center for Health Security has received questions about whether that pandemic exercise predicted the current novel coronavirus outbreak in China. To be clear, the Center for Health Security and partners did not make a prediction during our tabletop exercise. For the scenario, we modeled a fictional coronavirus pandemic, but we explicitly stated that it was not a prediction. Instead, the exercise served to highlight preparedness and response challenges that would likely arise in a very severe pandemic. We are not now predicting that the nCoV-2019 outbreak will kill 65 million people. Although our tabletop exercise included a mock novel coronavirus, the inputs we used for modeling the potential impact of that fictional virus are not similar to nCoV-2019."

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Oh we’re going to do the hoax “hoax” again?
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Wife saw a post on fb saying that in Africa they are testing them as Guinea pigs? Africa does not want to be a Guinea pig for the US.
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Oh we’re going to do the hoax “hoax” again?
Funny how even a straightforward Trump rally video with no cuts, edits, or comments becomes a "hoax" once Trump starts contradicting his previous words.
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Wife saw a post on fb saying that in Africa they are testing them as Guinea pigs? Africa does not want to be a Guinea pig for the US.
If it's posted on fb it must be true.
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If it's posted on fb it must be true.
This one seems short a few brain cells. We don't even have enough drugs to treat ourselves and we're experimenting on Africans why?

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This one seems short a few brain cells.
Checked out other posts - a freshly bought 2014 M6 GC after a Nissan. Have to agree.

Some people should have their checkbooks taken away from them until they've watched every single Hoovie's Garage video.
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