F1 2021: Brazilian GP - São Paulo (Nov 14)

[F87source]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

That's actually what I said .

Meanwhile , I really hope that Mercedes keeps it clean ..
Sadly , that's not what they have showed to us ...

People seem to forget very quickly !

This is the first time mercedes has explicitly not met a technical directive. Every other "concern" is only conspiracy at best.

RB isn't clean either, their flexi wing clearly didn't meet technical directives, and their earlier tire blow outs were suspected to be due to tire pressure manipulation - albeit no concrete proof exists.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by F87source

This is the first time mercedes has explicitly not met a technical directive. Every other "concern" is only conspiracy at best.

RB isn't clean either, their flexi wing clearly didn't meet technical directives, and their earlier tire blow outs were suspected to be due to tire pressure manipulation - albeit no concrete proof exists.

Right . Did you see that the Merc's rear squat suspension and the Merc's flexible front wing are approved by the FIA regulations on paper ?
Are the Mercedes 'Turbo upgrades approved by the FIA while BOT's and HAM's PU's were replaced ?
I hear that replacing Mercedes PU's is the new *Party-Mode ?
Meanwhile Horner knowns what it is ..The HONDA engineers are looking at it in JAPAN .
Note : Currently 'I don't know what it is ..But that information will come soon enough .

This was already used at Silverstone , is this approved by the FIA as well ?

[GuidoK]

Originally Posted by F87source

their flexi wing clearly didn't meet technical directives

The FIA themselves said that no rules were broken with that wing.
The wing became non compliant when the FIA changed the rules after complaints from MERC.
The FIA gave the teams time to change that wing after the rulechange and the teams did.

albeit no concrete proof exists

Even Pirelli themselves said that the tires were filled with the correct pressure and warmed to the correct temperatures with the blankets before the race....
And that Pirelli changed their tyre design after Baku only confirms that.

[F87source]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Right . Did you see that the Merc's rear squat suspension and the Merc's flexible front wing are approved by the FIA regulations on paper ?
Are the Mercedes 'Turbo upgrades approved by the FIA while BOT's and HAM's PU's were replaced ?
I hear that replacing Mercedes PU's is the new *Party-Mode ?
Meanwhile Horner knowns what it is ..The HONDA engineers are looking at it in JAPAN .
Note : Currently 'I don't know what it is ..But that information will come soon enough .

This was already used at Silverstone , is this approved by the FIA as well ?

We already discussed this.

Rear squat suspension is in the grey area because suspension movement is legal. There is no active nature to it again so perfectly leagal.


The front wing flex is within the tolerated amount whereas red bull's rear wing flex was not - thats the difference in being able to push the limits within the grey areas. Redbull got too greedy and it costed them. Don't forget no material is infinitely rigid hence the tolerance for material flex.


The rest is just more he said she said nonsense conspiracy garbage, if you don't have hard evidence then it is just useless rambling. Don't forget you're just a guy on the internet making crazy claims, if it was really happening red bull would have already launched a major law suit. But again they have not.


All I see is more jealousy towards mercedes, and I get it mercedes is constantly innovating and making major ground breaking upgrades to the car whereas teams like redbull are stagnant. If the FIA didn't implement these floor changes for 2021 (which impacted low cars like the mercedes the most) then mercedes would have smashed the competition for another year. Imagine the w11 with even more power, a squatting rear suspension, and another years worth of aero development.

[F87source]

Originally Posted by GuidoK

The FIA themselves said that no rules were broken with that wing.
The wing became non compliant when the FIA changed the rules after complaints from MERC.
The FIA gave the teams time to change that wing after the rulechange and the teams did.



Even Pirelli themselves said that the tires were filled with the correct pressure and warmed to the correct temperatures with the blankets before the race....
And that Pirelli changed their tyre design after Baku only confirms that.

In regards to the wing remember nothing is infinitely rigid, so theres tolerances to be had. Red bull pushed said tolerances to the breaking point, hence why with stricter tolerances in place they failed. Mercedes never pushed flex that far so even with new regs they didn't fail and thus didn't need a new front wing.

In regards to the tires rumours were aston and rb heated the tires up alot to get pressures to meet the min requirements. Again a rumour.

But what do you expect pirelli to do just keep the same old tires that were suscpetible to failure? Of course not they had to improve them.

[Bongoxxx]

Originally Posted by F87source

Yeah no worries.



I really like Charles as well, he's part of the new generation for sure. But it sucks he's racing for the prancing donkeys.

I’m actually disappointed in Charles this season…I thought he showed his class against SEB, but honestly I think SEB was just washed…Carlos is the driver to watch in the prancing pony.

Charles should be wiping the floor with his time in the car vs. Carlos, but Carlos has demonstrated his abilities.

[F87source]

Originally Posted by Bongoxxx

I’m actually disappointed in Charles this season…I thought he showed his class against SEB, but honestly I think SEB was just washed…Carlos is the driver to watch in the prancing pony.

Charles should be wiping the floor with his time in the car vs. Carlos, but Carlos has demonstrated his abilities.

I agree, Charles had so much potential not sure what happened this season.

[Autobacs]

I'm not surprised one bit that Sainz is holding up well against LeClerc.

When he got hired by Ferrari an acquaintance said he was ready to wager that LeClerc will beat him. He never did. Same thing in this board, nobody wanted to take my wager on Max beating Ham.

I already won my wager in this forum on Max outpointing Perez, much more than I expected.

[Bubbles]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Yes it was mentioned on the F1 Live radio.

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

OK . Thank you for the information

Hopefully they can fix it...

Yes, it’s on the the team radio stream. Data indicated gear shift delays coming out of a few turns. He switch to a fail mode to compensate and lost some pace.

[minn19]

Originally Posted by GuidoK

Wow..... that is pretty much an all time low....

You claim to be a fan of the sport yet you wish certain drivers dead?!?


I think the members that appreciated that post should also get their heads checked....

Dude go fuck your dumb ass self. It was obvious I didn’t mean it and was saying it to make a point. You didn’t say shit when your buddies were advocating for people to attack MBs haulers and the blatant racism towards HAM from them. You are hypocrite of the highest form and you know it.

[M5Rick]

[QUOTE=///M Power-Belgium;28250186]More like 1000 Euro a bottle ...

And look at this ...The Wolf with his dirty BS and bloody lies as usal !


This is what I think whenever he talks my friend and what he says to all the gullible Merc fans

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by GuidoK

Wow..... that is pretty much an all time low....

You claim to be a fan of the sport yet you wish certain drivers dead?!?


I think the members that appreciated that post should also get their heads checked....

Originally Posted by minn19

Dude go fuck your dumb ass self. It was obvious I didn’t mean it and was saying it to make a point. You didn’t say shit when your buddies were advocating for people to attack MBs haulers and the blatant racism towards HAM from them. You are hypocrite of the highest form and you know it.

Mate (*minn19) listen to this !
Honestly , in your situation ...Some fresh air is 'REALLY required .
Take a deep breath somewhere outside , and then come back and speak again...

Do you have a dog ?
Then take him/her out for a long....walk !

[Chappers 71]

[QUOTE=M5Rick;28251165]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

More like 1000 Euro a bottle ...

And look at this ...The Wolf with his dirty BS and bloody lies as usal !


This is what I think whenever he talks my friend and what he says to all the gullible Merc fans

Yes, RedBullshit indeed

Am just settling down to watch Brazil 1984 followed by Brazil 1986, proper racing

[///M Power-Belgium]

[QUOTE=Chappers 71;28251270]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Yes, RedBullshit indeed

Am just settling down to watch Brazil 1984 followed by Brazil 1986, proper racing

RedBullshit indeed ?

What ?

MAX wasn't cheating mate !

We witnessed that HAM the 'Liar was cheating with his DRS wing ...

Why do you think HAM got the P20 penalty ?
You are drunk ? Or you didn't watched the sprint race ...

[M5Rick]

[QUOTE=Chappers 71;28251270]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Yes, RedBullshit indeed

Am just settling down to watch Brazil 1984 followed by Brazil 1986, proper racing

s*it is brown, RB is red and gives you Wings> 33
All the three's clickety click

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Right . Did you see that the Merc's rear squat suspension and the Merc's flexible front wing are approved by the FIA regulations on paper ?
Are the Mercedes 'Turbo upgrades approved by the FIA while BOT's and HAM's PU's were replaced ?
I hear that replacing Mercedes PU's is the new *Party-Mode ?
Meanwhile Horner knowns what it is ..The HONDA engineers are looking at it in JAPAN .
Note : Currently 'I don't know what it is ..But that information will come soon enough .

This was already used at Silverstone , is this approved by the FIA as well ?

I'm learning more..walls in the plenum chamber filled with ice cool fluid..drirty strinking cheats.

[///M Power-Belgium]

[QUOTE=M5Rick;28251165]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

More like 1000 Euro a bottle ...

And look at this ...The Wolf with his dirty BS and bloody lies as usal !


This is what I think whenever he talks my friend and what he says to all the gullible Merc fans

Currently , it's 27°C (air-temp) at the Autódromo José Carlos Pace circuit..

The tires are going to overheat very quickly !

[M5Rick]

[QUOTE=///M Power-Belgium;28251317]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Currently , it's 27°C (air-temp) at the Autódromo José Carlos Pace circuit..

The tires are going to overheat very quickly !

RB needs the temp to be high much more than yesterday.

[Chappers 71]

[QUOTE=M5Rick;28251298]

Originally Posted by Chappers 71

s*it is brown, RB is red and gives you Wings> 33
All the three's clickety click

It’s not though, is it. Red bull is the colour of a dehydrated mans piss, I know this because I have drunken plenty of TVR’s

[Chappers 71]

[QUOTE=///M Power-Belgium;28251317]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Currently , it's 27°C (air-temp) at the Autódromo José Carlos Pace circuit..

The TYRES are going to overheat very quickly !

FTFY

[M5Rick]

[QUOTE=Chappers 71;28251344]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

FTFY

No worries Chappers

[e90335e36m3]

"Amazing" drive by Lewis. More like amazing car piloted by a talented Lewis. Best ever? I think not. Take the car out of the equation, and where would he be? 1 championship? 2? Not 7.