New 2009 2010 BMW Z4 - ZPOST
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Go Back   New 2009 2010 BMW Z4 - ZPOST > BIMMERPOST Universal Forums > General BMW News and Cars Discussion

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      07-02-2019, 04:04 PM   #111
kyrix1st
Colonel
kyrix1st's Avatar
2444
Rep
2,400
Posts

Drives: G87 M2; E92M3 MT&DCT; M3 euro
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: nyc

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2004 BMW Z4  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Humdizzle View Post
yup. just give it time. When the new M3s are all awd and dct. people will start paying top dollar for manual rwd ones. I do feel the M3 market is different than the M5 market in that regard.
You are late to the game I'm afraid.

The next gen G80 M3 will be awd AND ZF torque converter. Apparently it's designed as a sedan version of X3M.

M went from motorsport to street poser.
__________________
Pass me if you can.
Appreciate 1
jmg19371.50
      07-02-2019, 04:11 PM   #112
Sedan_Clan
Law Enforcer
Sedan_Clan's Avatar
Brazil
27082
Rep
22,704
Posts

Drives: '22 Chalk Gray Porsche C2S
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: ..in your rearview!!!

iTrader: (26)

Quote:
Originally Posted by kyrix1st View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Humdizzle View Post
yup. just give it time. When the new M3s are all awd and dct. people will start paying top dollar for manual rwd ones. I do feel the M3 market is different than the M5 market in that regard.
You are late to the game I'm afraid.

The next gen G80 M3 will be awd AND ZF torque converter. Apparently it's designed as a sedan version of X3M.

M went from motorsport to street poser.
My F82 looks tastier and tastier to me as the days pass.
Appreciate 2
Brake_Late1940.00
///M4TT150.00
      07-02-2019, 05:30 PM   #113
Brake_Late
Brigadier General
Brake_Late's Avatar
Norway
1940
Rep
3,296
Posts

Drives: 2015 F82 M4 FIREORANGE2
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Manhattan Beach

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by kyrix1st View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Humdizzle View Post
yup. just give it time. When the new M3s are all awd and dct. people will start paying top dollar for manual rwd ones. I do feel the M3 market is different than the M5 market in that regard.
You are late to the game I'm afraid.

The next gen G80 M3 will be awd AND ZF torque converter. Apparently it's designed as a sedan version of X3M.

M went from motorsport to street poser.
My F82 looks tastier and tastier to me as the days pass.
Exactly
Attached Images
 
__________________
Eendraght Maeckt Macht
FOF82,3pedals,MPE,CCBs,Multicams,
CarbonStrucktureAnthracite, CF_Everything
BMWPhotoVin, 01of01, GTS DCT, EPS, MDM,
CS EDC,Analog Dip ,GTS parts.
Euro Vin e30 M3, FIA cage / 14.7 p / w ratio.
Euro E30 touring G30 MSport i3s LBB X5M
3.2carrera

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClRTsfNzuz_EjUBu59UCykA
Appreciate 2
Sedan_Clan27081.50
      07-02-2019, 08:40 PM   #114
domino_z
Colonel
1358
Rep
2,022
Posts

Drives: F-Pace SVR
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Australia

iTrader: (0)

For me it was my e46, not so much the engine but more so the balance of sport and comfort

The engine wasn't the most powerful back then, but it didn't matter as the m3 was supposed to be all about the chassis

It was also the best time for the sports sedan imo, you could have a sublime chassis that was a definite step up from the donor car, without a harsh ride/nvh - this seems to be a lost art now as manufacturers are making these cars way too stiff for the journo praise at track day launches
Appreciate 0
      07-02-2019, 09:05 PM   #115
Sedan_Clan
Law Enforcer
Sedan_Clan's Avatar
Brazil
27082
Rep
22,704
Posts

Drives: '22 Chalk Gray Porsche C2S
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: ..in your rearview!!!

iTrader: (26)

Quote:
Originally Posted by domino_z View Post
For me it was my e46, not so much the engine but more so the balance of sport and comfort

The engine wasn't the most powerful back then, but it didn't matter as the m3 was supposed to be all about the chassis

It was also the best time for the sports sedan imo, you could have a sublime chassis that was a definite step up from the donor car, without a harsh ride/nvh - this seems to be a lost art now as manufacturers are making these cars way too stiff for the journo praise at track day launches
People complained about the E46 ///M3's stiffness. I can't count how many times a member on E46Fanatics complained about the car being too stiff for daily driving. Pusses!
Appreciate 0
      07-02-2019, 09:06 PM   #116
Sedan_Clan
Law Enforcer
Sedan_Clan's Avatar
Brazil
27082
Rep
22,704
Posts

Drives: '22 Chalk Gray Porsche C2S
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: ..in your rearview!!!

iTrader: (26)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brake_Late View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by kyrix1st View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Humdizzle View Post
yup. just give it time. When the new M3s are all awd and dct. people will start paying top dollar for manual rwd ones. I do feel the M3 market is different than the M5 market in that regard.
You are late to the game I'm afraid.

The next gen G80 M3 will be awd AND ZF torque converter. Apparently it's designed as a sedan version of X3M.

M went from motorsport to street poser.
My F82 looks tastier and tastier to me as the days pass.
Exactly
Love the car bro!!!
Appreciate 1
Brake_Late1940.00
      07-02-2019, 09:23 PM   #117
///M4TT
18’ F82 ZCP
///M4TT's Avatar
United_States
150
Rep
162
Posts

Drives: 18' F82 ZCP in MGM
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Washington State

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brake_Late View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by kyrix1st View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Humdizzle View Post
yup. just give it time. When the new M3s are all awd and dct. people will start paying top dollar for manual rwd ones. I do feel the M3 market is different than the M5 market in that regard.
You are late to the game I'm afraid.

The next gen G80 M3 will be awd AND ZF torque converter. Apparently it's designed as a sedan version of X3M.

M went from motorsport to street poser.
My F82 looks tastier and tastier to me as the days pass.
Exactly
Nearly 30 years in waiting before I arrived at a place in life where I could afford a new ///M car. And even still it makes no sense whatsoever. But it doesn't need to and that's why these cars (regardless of generation or trim) transcend time. It's why year after year they serve as the benchmark for the competition. Regardless of the distance from its original racing heritage, ///M will always mean something! And to an old guy like me — it means everything. F'ed up as this may sound, I am more connected to my car than I am to my wife of 25-years. I understand my car better than either of my teenage daughters. I feel more pride for all I am capable of behind the wheel than I do in my profession. Every single time I start my F82 I get chills and thank God I live in a country where this is possible. I suspect that holds true no matter what generation you own.

Have a safe enjoyable Independence Day weekend.
__________________
2018 F82 ZCP MGM
Appreciate 1
Brake_Late1940.00
      07-02-2019, 09:39 PM   #118
Brake_Late
Brigadier General
Brake_Late's Avatar
Norway
1940
Rep
3,296
Posts

Drives: 2015 F82 M4 FIREORANGE2
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Manhattan Beach

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brake_Late View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by kyrix1st View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Humdizzle View Post
yup. just give it time. When the new M3s are all awd and dct. people will start paying top dollar for manual rwd ones. I do feel the M3 market is different than the M5 market in that regard.
You are late to the game I'm afraid.

The next gen G80 M3 will be awd AND ZF torque converter. Apparently it's designed as a sedan version of X3M.

M went from motorsport to street poser.
My F82 looks tastier and tastier to me as the days pass.
Exactly
Love the car bro!!!
Much appreciated ... no love has been lost yet... not even close. It's amazing everytime it's fired. 🔥
Attached Images
 
__________________
Eendraght Maeckt Macht
FOF82,3pedals,MPE,CCBs,Multicams,
CarbonStrucktureAnthracite, CF_Everything
BMWPhotoVin, 01of01, GTS DCT, EPS, MDM,
CS EDC,Analog Dip ,GTS parts.
Euro Vin e30 M3, FIA cage / 14.7 p / w ratio.
Euro E30 touring G30 MSport i3s LBB X5M
3.2carrera

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClRTsfNzuz_EjUBu59UCykA
Appreciate 0
      07-02-2019, 09:40 PM   #119
Brake_Late
Brigadier General
Brake_Late's Avatar
Norway
1940
Rep
3,296
Posts

Drives: 2015 F82 M4 FIREORANGE2
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Manhattan Beach

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ///M4TT View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brake_Late View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by kyrix1st View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Humdizzle View Post
yup. just give it time. When the new M3s are all awd and dct. people will start paying top dollar for manual rwd ones. I do feel the M3 market is different than the M5 market in that regard.
You are late to the game I'm afraid.

The next gen G80 M3 will be awd AND ZF torque converter. Apparently it's designed as a sedan version of X3M.

M went from motorsport to street poser.
My F82 looks tastier and tastier to me as the days pass.
Exactly
Nearly 30 years in waiting before I arrived at a place in life where I could afford a new ///M car. And even still it makes no sense whatsoever. But it doesn't need to and that's why these cars (regardless of generation or trim) transcend time. It's why year after year they serve as the benchmark for the competition. Regardless of the distance from its original racing heritage, ///M will always mean something! And to an old guy like me — it means everything. F'ed up as this may sound, I am more connected to my car than I am to my wife of 25-years. I understand my car better than either of my teenage daughters. I feel more pride for all I am capable of behind the wheel than I do in my profession. Every single time I start my F82 I get chills and thank God I live in a country where this is possible. I suspect that holds true no matter what generation you own.

Have a safe enjoyable Independence Day weekend.
__________________
Eendraght Maeckt Macht
FOF82,3pedals,MPE,CCBs,Multicams,
CarbonStrucktureAnthracite, CF_Everything
BMWPhotoVin, 01of01, GTS DCT, EPS, MDM,
CS EDC,Analog Dip ,GTS parts.
Euro Vin e30 M3, FIA cage / 14.7 p / w ratio.
Euro E30 touring G30 MSport i3s LBB X5M
3.2carrera

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClRTsfNzuz_EjUBu59UCykA
Appreciate 0
      07-02-2019, 10:34 PM   #120
domino_z
Colonel
1358
Rep
2,022
Posts

Drives: F-Pace SVR
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Australia

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan View Post
People complained about the E46 ///M3's stiffness. I can't count how many times a member on E46Fanatics complained about the car being too stiff for daily driving. Pusses!
It's all relative isn't it

That's why I say it was the perfect balance, yeh it was firmer than an e36 on 45 series sidewalls, but it wasn't overtly firm or harsh like the f80
Appreciate 1
Brake_Late1940.00
      07-02-2019, 10:41 PM   #121
matty088
Major
369
Rep
1,206
Posts

Drives: 335i
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Ct

iTrader: (1)

The rasp on the e46 literally ruins the car. It sounds like something is broke. It sounds cheap. Really bad noise.

I’d mod mind but dropping 2000 bucks nets you 10hp.

Mine is vert. And thank good. Otherwise I wouldn’t drive it compared to my f80. There would be literally no circumstance where I’d drive an e46 over a f80
Appreciate 0
      07-02-2019, 10:42 PM   #122
Sedan_Clan
Law Enforcer
Sedan_Clan's Avatar
Brazil
27082
Rep
22,704
Posts

Drives: '22 Chalk Gray Porsche C2S
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: ..in your rearview!!!

iTrader: (26)

Quote:
Originally Posted by domino_z View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan View Post
People complained about the E46 ///M3's stiffness. I can't count how many times a member on E46Fanatics complained about the car being too stiff for daily driving. Pusses!
It's all relative isn't it

That's why I say it was the perfect balance, yeh it was firmer than an e36 on 45 series sidewalls, but it wasn't overtly firm or harsh like the f80
Relative it is! I only think the F8X is more harsh when in Sport +, but it's not overly harsh to me. Sport mode strikes a nice balance.
Appreciate 1
Brake_Late1940.00
      07-02-2019, 11:18 PM   #123
MmmmmM2
Colonel
MmmmmM2's Avatar
2669
Rep
2,465
Posts

Drives: 2021 M2C
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Claremont, CA

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2016 Mazda CX-5  [0.00]
2021 BMW M2C  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by kyrix1st View Post
You are late to the game I'm afraid.

The next gen G80 M3 will be awd AND ZF torque converter. Apparently it's designed as a sedan version of X3M.

M went from motorsport to street poser.
Seriously? WTF?
Appreciate 0
      07-03-2019, 01:26 AM   #124
domino_z
Colonel
1358
Rep
2,022
Posts

Drives: F-Pace SVR
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Australia

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by matty088 View Post
The rasp on the e46 literally ruins the car. It sounds like something is broke. It sounds cheap. Really bad noise.

I'd mod mind but dropping 2000 bucks nets you 10hp.

Mine is vert. And thank good. Otherwise I wouldn't drive it compared to my f80. There would be literally no circumstance where I'd drive an e46 over a f80
Blame your US spec

We got the euro spec and it sounded as intended

Likewise we got the euro spec e36, and the s50 performed as intended
Appreciate 0
      07-03-2019, 01:54 PM   #125
doccyber
Captain
doccyber's Avatar
United_States
261
Rep
628
Posts

Drives: %D0%97%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Los Angeles, CA

iTrader: (0)

The first gen will always be special. Easily my choice. Long live e30 M3.
Appreciate 1
Brake_Late1940.00
      07-03-2019, 03:10 PM   #126
MmmmmM2
Colonel
MmmmmM2's Avatar
2669
Rep
2,465
Posts

Drives: 2021 M2C
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Claremont, CA

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2016 Mazda CX-5  [0.00]
2021 BMW M2C  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by doccyber View Post
The first gen will always be special. Easily my choice. Long line e30 M3.
And especially the Evolution. Love that car!
Appreciate 2
Brake_Late1940.00
doccyber260.50
      07-06-2019, 01:39 AM   #127
IB M
Brigadier General
2862
Rep
4,317
Posts

Drives: 2013 M3 6MT
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: North Carolina

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
2017 BMW M3  [8.50]
2013 BMW M3  [10.00]
Only 1 of these 5 was available in North America as designed in full boat spec ... and that is why the 2018 M3 CS is the overall best of all compared.
Appreciate 0
      07-06-2019, 10:52 AM   #128
IB M
Brigadier General
2862
Rep
4,317
Posts

Drives: 2013 M3 6MT
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: North Carolina

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
2017 BMW M3  [8.50]
2013 BMW M3  [10.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by seis-speed View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by mKilgore View Post
Everyday Driver made a video where they drive all of the M3 cars, and then throw in the 1M and M2. Funny thing is, when they get to the end, they rate the top 3 cars based on which one they would want to own and drive everyday....both agreed it was unanimously the 1M.

Funny, how the 1M usually ends up the winner in back to back comparisons, yet somehow Bimmerpost members who have probably never driven one declare it overrated, claiming the rarity as the only redeeming quality.
Have you ever watched this video? Back when both cars were new the 1M came up just short to the V8M3 with both driver/reviewers agreeing. Interesting that most recent reviews put 1M atop. If BMW made 25,000 1Ms and only made 700 V8M3s people would be giving both their left and right testicles for the M3. Rarity does play a part IMO. Not taking anything away from the 1M

and no I've never driven one.


Appreciate 1
jmg19371.50
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
bmw m3, e30 m3, e36 m3

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:06 AM.




zpost
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST