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      11-26-2023, 09:41 AM   #155
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What are all those "pit stop infringements" about of several drivers that Stewards are investigating right now (post-race) ? Speeding ?
Now I 'see'.

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Now I 'see'.

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Sure . I agree with that . But for the Ferrari situation from today ? NO
No team would gamble for a Safetycar to get 2nd in the WCC !

Ferrari was today like , as you can see ...
I myself cannot believe the SC maybe strat from Ferrari, they are probably 'checking' if that was correct W-T-F
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Congratulations to Mercedes for securing #2 in the WCC.



Abu Dhabi 2021 - lap 53: No Latifi crash = no 2021 WDC for Verstappen.
In a perfect world but as Murray Walker used to say 'anything can happen in GP racing, and it usually does'.
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      11-26-2023, 10:24 AM   #160
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I myself cannot believe the SC maybe strat from Ferrari, they are probably 'checking' if that was correct W-T-F
Ferrari is probably still 'checking' now. Cost them many millions though (I believe to have heard that 9 million of WCC prize money was at stake between Mercedes and Ferrari).

Sainz is classified as "DNF" as he failed to drive the final lap.

Sainz during qualies yesterday: rather "King Of Sorrow" than "Smooth Operator" this time around. Because of the strat mistake during qualies (result: P16), he compromised his race strat and with his team "checking" whether a safety car was still in the cards, he ruined his race and the chance to get WCC #2.

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Now I 'see'.
Punished Checo Perez "insults stewards" and has to fear an extra punishment !
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      11-26-2023, 10:33 AM   #162
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Pit lane infringement,got my fingers crossed for Ferrari..
Forget about it. That will be either no further action, or a warning or a fine.

...Except if Stewards contact Michael Masi for some advice.
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ferrari is probably still 'checking' now. Cost them many millions though (i believe to have heard that 9 million of wcc prize money was at stake between mercedes and ferrari).

sainz is classified as "dnf" as he failed to drive the final lap.

Sainz during qualies yesterday: Rather "king of sorrow" than "smooth operator" this time around. Because of the strat mistake during qualies (result: P16), he compromised his race strat and with his team "checking" whether a safety car was still in the cards, he ruined his race and the chance to get wcc #2.
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A Perez radio message was broadcast during the race where he disputed the 5 second time penalty.

Seems that Perez said a couple of other things too that triggered the Stewards to even summon him.

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Punished Checo Perez "insults stewards" and has to fear an extra punishment !
=> https://racingnews365.nl/bestrafte-p...or-extra-straf
That article reports that Perez messaged that the stewards were "F1 unworthy". So he may expect a fine and a couple of penalty points added (12 penalty points = race ban).
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Ferrari is probably still 'checking' now. Cost them many millions though (I believe to have heard that 9 million WCC prize money was at stake between Mercedes and Ferrari).

Sainz is classified as "DNF" as he failed to drive the final lap.

Sainz during qualies yesterday: rather "King Of Sorrow" than "Smooth Operator" this time around. Because of the strat mistake during qualies (result: P16), he compromised his race strat and with his team "checking" whether a safety car was still in the cards, he ruined his race and the chance to get WCC #2.
Vasseur has been too easy with the drivers, if Binotto was still there then second in Constructors would have been assured. Charlie has fell in, some discipline and a 'finger' at Sainz would have been the key.
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A Perez radio message was broadcast during the race where he disputed the 5 second time penalty.

Seems that Perez said a couple of other things too that triggered the Stewards to even summon him.

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That article reports that Perez messaged that the stewards were "F1 unworthy". So he may expect a fine and a couple of penalty points added (12 penalty points = race ban).
Drivers can't say anything, can't undo their race suit a bit after race... the gov. body have turned into a bunch of strict headmasters.
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I'll take the extra wind tunnel time over 2nd place.
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      11-26-2023, 11:01 AM   #168
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Drivers can't say anything, can't undo their race suit a bit after race... the gov. body have turned into a bunch of strict headmasters.
Perez has definitely a right to disagree and to state his opinion. But he should refrain from making ad hominem statements, viciously attacking the Stewards. He has the right to appeal decisions taken by the stewards if he believes those to be ill-founded.

Referees don't expect you to agree with all their decisions or to glorify them. But they do expect you to respect them; they do the same vis--vis the drivers and drivers may expect that too - that's fundamental. Referees are present to make the sport happen in an orderly way. And as human beings, can mistakes too. Feel free to dispute the merits of a decision, consider appealing a decision, but, at all times, leave out ad hominem comments. Even if worked up in the heat of a fight, engage brain before speech.

Furthermore, Perez should watch the replays and analyze why Stewards blamed him for the Norris collision.
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What are all those "pit stop infringements" about of several drivers that Stewards are investigating right now (post-race) ? Speeding ?
Now I 'see'.

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https://racingnews365.com/stewards-d...-pit-incidents
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C'mon, some sportsmanship.

Alike Perez, Mercedes got ranked best of the rest.
1 I'd rather own a Ferrari than a Mercedes but Mercedes are the better F1 team by far.

2 I'll help Sergio here. "The stewards are idiots."

3 CLC's destruction by Ferrari is complete. He's forgetten how to race. (maybe in reading it wrong. I think more correctly Max has destroyed everyone and everyone has forgetten how to race because of Max's dominance)

4 Watch out for the Maclarens (did I just jinx them for next season?)

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I'll be watching it VERY soon...there's no smoke in Max's eyes when it comes to DELIVERING
He's led over one thousand laps this year
Check the finger from the greatest driver ever in F1 history !

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What are all those "pit stop infringements" about of several drivers that Stewards are investigating right now (post-race) ? Speeding ?
Now I 'see'.

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I'll take the extra wind tunnel time over 2nd place.
No amount of wind tunnel can help their strategy team I'm afraid.
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No amount of wind tunnel can help their strategy team I'm afraid.
but it can't hurt
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No amount of wind tunnel can help their strategy team I'm afraid.
That's for sure . Today Ferrari was fast enough to beat Mercedes in the WCC ...

But the Italian Ferrari clown strategy screwed it up (as usual)!

We are waiting.... For a safety car !
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