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      12-03-2020, 05:41 PM   #331
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Actually that's not accurate. I know and correspond with 2 TPs on a regular basis.

I do find it strange that you always assume others cheat rather than get to places with hard work and by just being better than their competition.

Why do you think this way?
TP?
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Your "inside F1" insight is welcomed and respected.
Thank you, good sir!! Your racing knowledge is also highly respected!! And the variety of the platforms you know of is very impressive, as well!!
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I do find it strange that you always assume others cheat rather than get to places with hard work and by just being better than their competition.
Why do you think this way?
Its a weird sort of personality disorder...they have a pre-set truth (Verstappen is the greatest and should win every race) and therefore have to distort reality (basically lie to themselves and everyone else) to make that "truth" work.
There are no "facts" that can not be twisted to fit inside that reality.
Essentially it goes:
Mercedes is fastest so they must be cheating.
Hamilton is fastest only because he is in a Mercedes.
Bottas must be really slow because he is beaten by Hamilton.

It doesn't help that they have very little understanding of the history of F1 and how the technical side is policed.
At least there is some entertainment value in seeing what nonsense they will come out with next

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Actually that's not accurate. I know and correspond with 2 TPs on a regular basis.

I do find it strange that you always assume others cheat rather than get to places with hard work and by just being better than their competition.

Why do you think this way?
TP.Do you mean third parties in Merc? Be more specific and if so why would they tell you what goes on. You don't know more than anyone on here, unless you work on the Merc team there and it's you that's using the word 'cheat' not me
Time to come clean mate.
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Its a weird sort of personality disorder...they have a pre-set truth (Verstappen is the greatest and should win every race) and therefore have to distort reality (basically lie to themselves and everyone else) to make that "truth" work.
There are no "facts" that can not be twisted to fit inside that reality.
Essentially it goes:
Mercedes is fastest so they must be cheating.
Hamilton is fastest only because he is in a Mercedes.
Bottas must be really slow because he is beaten by Hamilton.

It doesn't help that they have very little understanding of the history of F1 and how the technical side is policed.
At least there is some entertainment value in seeing what nonsense they will come out with next
You know nothing yourself just sit there with the Fia rule book in front of you pretending to be an F1 guru.
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You know nothing yourself just sit there with the Fia rule book in front of you pretending to be an F1 guru.
Ouch...you got me there!!
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Ouch...you got me there!!
When I want to say something to someone I go to the engine driver, not hide behind someone else's back and say it, ho ho ho
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TP.Do you mean third parties in Merc? Be more specific and if so why would they tell you what goes on. You don't know more than anyone on here, unless you work on the Merc team there and it's you that's using the word 'cheat' not me
Time to come clean mate.
Don’t want to put words in MK’s mouth, but TP to me would mean Team Principal.
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Don’t want to put words in MK’s mouth, but TP to me would mean Team Principal.
Ok thanks for that.
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When I want to say something to someone I go to the engine driver, not hide behind someone else's back and say it, ho ho ho
Nothing was hidden anywhere...you knew it applied to you (and the belge).
Why not stop spouting lies and misinformation and then we can all get on enjoying our common interest in F1.
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You are a genius. Ill give it a go
FP1 *should* be on BBC sport with live commentary from Palmer and co in about 10 mins from 1330 UK time.
FP2 at 1730 UK time.

If you manage to spoof your location to the UK then its
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/formula1/53912769

Commentary is also on the IOS BBC sport app..but I have no idea if its possible to spoof the location of an iphone.

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Its a weird sort of personality disorder...they have a pre-set truth (Verstappen is the greatest and should win every race) and therefore have to distort reality (basically lie to themselves and everyone else) to make that "truth" work.
There are no "facts" that can not be twisted to fit inside that reality.
Essentially it goes:
Mercedes is fastest so they must be cheating.
Hamilton is fastest only because he is in a Mercedes.
Bottas must be really slow because he is beaten by Hamilton.

It doesn't help that they have very little understanding of the history of F1 and how the technical side is policed.
At least there is some entertainment value in seeing what nonsense they will come out with next
This isnt that strange here in the US...It effects over 70 million Americans.
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TP.Do you mean third parties in Merc? Be more specific and if so why would they tell you what goes on. You don't know more than anyone on here, unless you work on the Merc team there and it's you that's using the word 'cheat' not me
Time to come clean mate.
<sigh>

Team Principle. They only say it 20 times each race weekend.

And you are making inferences to cheating. Really passive-aggressive.
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Nothing was hidden anywhere...you knew it applied to you (and the belge).
Why not stop spouting lies and misinformation and then we can all get on enjoying our common interest in F1.
You call me a liar then you are a coward, don't hide behind other people.
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<sigh>

Team Principle. They only say it 20 times each race weekend.

And you are making inferences to cheating. Really passive-aggressive.
Valid factual comments have been put to you and you keep saying cheating...so you also take 'passive-aggressive' to a new level in your vocabulary.
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Valid factual comments have been put to you and you keep saying cheating...so you also take 'passive-aggressive' to a new level in your vocabulary.
What factual comment have you made about Mercedes? Clap-trap from Luca about developing the engine in 2007 which has been PROVEN WRONG from actual well-researched articles in the-race.com?

HAM with an illegal car? Mercedes cheating? Max being better than Lewis? You back your allegations up with: These comments aren't about data.

C'mon. Do better.
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Its a weird sort of personality disorder...they have a pre-set truth (Verstappen is the greatest and should win every race) and therefore have to distort reality (basically lie to themselves and everyone else) to make that "truth" work.
There are no "facts" that can not be twisted to fit inside that reality.
Essentially it goes:
Mercedes is fastest so they must be cheating.
Hamilton is fastest only because he is in a Mercedes.
Bottas must be really slow because he is beaten by Hamilton.

It doesn't help that they have very little understanding of the history of F1 and how the technical side is policed.
At least there is some entertainment value in seeing what nonsense they will come out with next
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Nothing was hidden anywhere...you knew it applied to you (and the belge).
Why not stop spouting lies and misinformation and then we can all get on enjoying our common interest in F1.
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What factual comment have you made about Mercedes? Clap-trap from Luca about developing the engine in 2007 which has been PROVEN WRONG from actual well-researched articles in the-race.com?

HAM with an illegal car? Mercedes cheating? Max being better than Lewis? You back your allegations up with: These comments aren't about data.

C'mon. Do better.
''Max being better than Lewis'' still waiting on Toto for a sensible reply regarding the comparison as stated by Max
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''Max being better than Lewis'' still waiting on Toto for a sensible reply regarding the comparison as stated by Max
I'll answer for the always-busy Mr. Wolff. It's in my signature.
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