2019 Z4

Coercion Shaman · 08-24-2018, 06:56 AM

Nice video if not a bit long from shmee 150 on youtube.

First Drive review:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/auto...4R5&ocid=ientp

impulsE89 · 08-24-2018, 09:23 AM

TY Best look so far. I am not an ostentatious or stylish person so part of me thinks there are too many scoops and creases but part of me enjoys all the eye candy and likes the crisp modern look. The top is partially exposed when retracted which is novel. The blind spots to the side, when up, look awfully big so lots of cameras are a must. It is a very modern make over that maintains the Z4 image. I think it is a serious effort to make a great Z4 that will be around for many years. It is also somewhat wider, which is not obvious in the video but should be impressive. The interior is slightly over the top IMHO but has some very nice modern features like the hidden phone charging panel.
I think it could be a big hit in the marketplace for a while with all the new ideas. I expect that prices will be somewhat higher especially when the new electronic diff etc are included.

Run Silent · 08-24-2018, 09:41 AM

Is it just me, or does it look like the Fiat/Miata Spider?

Coercion Shaman · 08-24-2018, 09:42 AM

I wasn't too sure about this at first, but I think I may consider the M40i version they show. And it looks like the top has a hard plate on the leading edge that should help with noise and temperature retention like the hard top. I think the 'regular' Z4 will be too plain if it loses any of the body cuts in the panels. Haven't like any of the spy photos. I am not a fan of the new dash, though, on any of the upcoming cars.

Car and driver surmised yesterday that the 30i (4 cylinder) will start around $50K and the M40i will start around $60K in their article yesterday, so it won't really be out of line from the previos E89. And there is a money savings in the soft top. They generally don't just pull numbers out of the air.

Coercion Shaman · 08-24-2018, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by usshelena725

Is it just me, or does it look like the Fiat/Miata Spider?

Yes, a bit... except better! And the Miata doesn't have 385HP.

Run Silent · 08-24-2018, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coercion Shaman

Yes, a bit... except better! And the Miata doesn't have 385HP.

Well, there is that....

Of course, it only costs about half the price too. So, I dunno, half the price for half the horsepower? Is it worth it? LOL.

I personally really like it, but really do think the styling is too similar to other cars currently.

Cloudywolf · 08-24-2018, 11:58 AM

I'm sure it will be a great car but it does look a lot like the Miata.

impulsE89 · 08-24-2018, 12:27 PM

The Miata looks like a scaled down version. Too small in fact for many of us.
In the Z4 video, under the hood, I hope they don't keep those cheap crude looking strut braces.

Romer · 08-24-2018, 12:44 PM

I am liking it better. I wonder if it will be easier to get in and out of with the top up

Lurcher · 08-24-2018, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Romer

I am liking it better. I wonder if it will be easier to get in and out of with the top up

You put the top up?

That's why all of these guys need relay replacements - they are using the tool wrong....

Coercion Shaman · 08-24-2018, 01:09 PM

Apparently full specs will be released by BMW on 19 September.

Romer · 08-24-2018, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lurcher

You put the top up?

That's why all of these guys need relay replacements - they are using the tool wrong....

I live were it snows in the winter and gets into the single digits. If I lived in Plano I wouldn't have to

VailM3 · 08-25-2018, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lakesguy

It's ok but I am disappointed. I have seen the pictures from the big Pebble Beach Reveal and expected that it would be better looking. Too many points and jagged edges here and there looks like an amalgam of other makes. And what happened to the traditional BMW headlights -- vertically stacked headlights?? It may have some new upgrades and engine options, but I much prefer the look of my Crimson Red 2016.

Pretty much this. Will have to look to something from Stuttgart for replacement to the 35is. It has lost the proprtions and angles the e89 is know for. Also the interior wont be classic (sans nav screen) like the e89 too.

I am sure it is a better drivers car but so are the offers from Stuttgart

Mayhem · 09-09-2018, 04:45 AM

I’m keeping my 2012 35is. For the hard top if for no other reason. The new Z4 looks ok with the top down, but not sure I’d like it with a rag top.

Seaice · 09-19-2018, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by usshelena725

Is it just me, or does it look like the Fiat/Miata Spider?

Uggh... Just saw it for the first time and absolutely...

Looks like the Fiat, (but less cohesive (and the Fiat is a shadow of a real 124))... Also shades of the mid-90s Alfa Spider in the rear haunches, a C7 'Vette in the front fender side scoop. A return to the first-gen Bangle flame edge on the door. Rear end's a mess and what's with the "scuppers" bracketing the front center lower grill?

I really don't like it.

VailM3 · 09-20-2018, 11:24 AM

need to open a new page for this gem please and start moving topics. Thanks

Tangent · 09-21-2018, 11:01 AM

I like the overall looks of it and I love that they dialed in the driving dynamics to be a sporty car right off the showroom floor. I still don't like the soft top and the lack of a manual option will make it a hard pass for me.

MagicVioletZ1 · 09-24-2018, 08:05 PM

Looks much better in this video than it did in person at the Quail unveiling. Compared to the concept car, this was a huge disappointment. The Quail unveiling had no crave factor for me. It looked like a hodgepodge of other cars, including a side view of the Mercedes SL (which is a messy design compared to R230/Black Series).

Coercion Shaman · 11-07-2018, 01:05 PM

Added first drive review from autoblog to initial post.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/auto...4R5&ocid=ientp

Crazy8 · 11-07-2018, 06:58 PM

I've been really trying to like it but the more I look at it, the more hideous it looks to me. I'm sure it will be a great performer but it looks like they took several other cars and awkwardly stuck them together. To each their own I guess....

paris1 · 11-07-2018, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crazy8

I've been really trying to like it but the more I look at it, the more hideous it looks to me. I'm sure it will be a great performer but it looks like they took several other cars and awkwardly stuck them together. To each their own I guess....

If you’re really curious, I believe they’ll have one at the LA Auto show at the end of the month.

Zyal8r · 11-08-2018, 11:03 AM

1. A 4' wider track
2. 8 speed non dct+ a lot of torque
3 19" tires not staggered?? M40 only?
4. Available LSD
5 Fast top down at speed
But
Piped in exhaust
Objectively I think the wide track will give it a whole different super-car presence. But over all the styling seems very derivative and not anything new for a design that is going to be around for a long time.
I hope to get a test drive, but the E89 is more than adequate for my needs and I like that heavy metal top.

08-24-2018, 06:56 AM	#1
Coercion Shaman Private First Class 48 Rep 140 Posts Drives: 2019 Audi A5 Prestige S/B Join Date: May 2018 Location: Georgia iTrader: (0)	2019 Z4 Nice video if not a bit long from shmee 150 on youtube. First Drive review: https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/auto...4R5&ocid=ientp __________________ Also own: 2012 Z4 35is M Sport Adaptive (Atacama Yellow) Last edited by Coercion Shaman; 11-07-2018 at 01:04 PM..
	Appreciate 1 impulsE8918.00 Tweet Quote

08-24-2018, 09:23 AM	#2
impulsE89 Private 18 Rep 72 Posts Drives: 2Porsches2Alfas2Bmw2Corvettes Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: USA South iTrader: (0)	TY Best look so far. I am not an ostentatious or stylish person so part of me thinks there are too many scoops and creases but part of me enjoys all the eye candy and likes the crisp modern look. The top is partially exposed when retracted which is novel. The blind spots to the side, when up, look awfully big so lots of cameras are a must. It is a very modern make over that maintains the Z4 image. I think it is a serious effort to make a great Z4 that will be around for many years. It is also somewhat wider, which is not obvious in the video but should be impressive. The interior is slightly over the top IMHO but has some very nice modern features like the hidden phone charging panel. I think it could be a big hit in the marketplace for a while with all the new ideas. I expect that prices will be somewhat higher especially when the new electronic diff etc are included.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

08-24-2018, 09:41 AM	#3
Run Silent Run Deep 15127 Rep 4,123 Posts Drives: Back and Forth To Work Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: The Mountains iTrader: (0) Garage List 2018 Alfa Romeo Giu ... [0.00] 2022 Ford Bronco 2d ... [0.00] 2016 Alfa Romeo 4C [8.50] 2019 BMW i8 Roadster [0.00]	Is it just me, or does it look like the Fiat/Miata Spider? Attached Images
	Appreciate 0 Quote

08-24-2018, 09:42 AM	#4
Coercion Shaman Private First Class 48 Rep 140 Posts Drives: 2019 Audi A5 Prestige S/B Join Date: May 2018 Location: Georgia iTrader: (0)	I wasn't too sure about this at first, but I think I may consider the M40i version they show. And it looks like the top has a hard plate on the leading edge that should help with noise and temperature retention like the hard top. I think the 'regular' Z4 will be too plain if it loses any of the body cuts in the panels. Haven't like any of the spy photos. I am not a fan of the new dash, though, on any of the upcoming cars. Car and driver surmised yesterday that the 30i (4 cylinder) will start around $50K and the M40i will start around $60K in their article yesterday, so it won't really be out of line from the previos E89. And there is a money savings in the soft top. They generally don't just pull numbers out of the air. __________________ Also own: 2012 Z4 35is M Sport Adaptive (Atacama Yellow)
	Appreciate 0 Quote

08-24-2018, 11:58 AM	#7
Cloudywolf Private First Class 15 Rep 133 Posts Drives: 2013 Z4 35i Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Los Angeles, California iTrader: (1)	I'm sure it will be a great car but it does look a lot like the Miata. __________________ ___________________________ 2013 BMW Z4 35i 2008 BMW 335i 2005 350Z Roadster
	Appreciate 0 Quote

08-24-2018, 12:27 PM	#8
impulsE89 Private 18 Rep 72 Posts Drives: 2Porsches2Alfas2Bmw2Corvettes Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: USA South iTrader: (0)	The Miata looks like a scaled down version. Too small in fact for many of us. In the Z4 video, under the hood, I hope they don't keep those cheap crude looking strut braces.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

08-24-2018, 12:44 PM	#9
Romer BMW and Toyota Enthusiast 73 Rep 212 Posts Drives: 2019 Z4 sDrive30i Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Centennial, CO iTrader: (0)	I am liking it better. I wonder if it will be easier to get in and out of with the top up __________________ 2019 Z4 sDrive30i, 1973 FJ40 Land Cruiser, 2014 URJ Land Cruiser and 2016 Kimberley Kamper
	Appreciate 0 Quote

08-24-2018, 01:09 PM	#11
Coercion Shaman Private First Class 48 Rep 140 Posts Drives: 2019 Audi A5 Prestige S/B Join Date: May 2018 Location: Georgia iTrader: (0)	Apparently full specs will be released by BMW on 19 September. __________________ Also own: 2012 Z4 35is M Sport Adaptive (Atacama Yellow)
	Appreciate 0 Quote

09-09-2018, 04:45 AM	#14
Mayhem Second Lieutenant 22 Rep 252 Posts Drives: 2012 Z4 sDrive35is Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Hollywood iTrader: (0)	I’m keeping my 2012 35is. For the hard top if for no other reason. The new Z4 looks ok with the top down, but not sure I’d like it with a rag top.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

09-20-2018, 11:24 AM	#16
VailM3 Captain 61 Rep 766 Posts Drives: 2011 Z4 35is Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Geneva Switzerland iTrader: (0)	need to open a new page for this gem please and start moving topics. Thanks
	Appreciate 0 Quote

09-21-2018, 11:01 AM	#17
Tangent Lieutenant 296 Rep 581 Posts Drives: G01, F82, E89, F25 Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: California iTrader: (2)	I like the overall looks of it and I love that they dialed in the driving dynamics to be a sporty car right off the showroom floor. I still don't like the soft top and the lack of a manual option will make it a hard pass for me.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

09-24-2018, 08:05 PM	#18
MagicVioletZ1 Enlisted Member 2 Rep 41 Posts Drives: 1991 BMW Z1, Ferrari 355,SL600 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Beverly Hills iTrader: (0)	Looks much better in this video than it did in person at the Quail unveiling. Compared to the concept car, this was a huge disappointment. The Quail unveiling had no crave factor for me. It looked like a hodgepodge of other cars, including a side view of the Mercedes SL (which is a messy design compared to R230/Black Series).
	Appreciate 0 Quote

11-07-2018, 01:05 PM	#19
Coercion Shaman Private First Class 48 Rep 140 Posts Drives: 2019 Audi A5 Prestige S/B Join Date: May 2018 Location: Georgia iTrader: (0)	Added first drive review from autoblog to initial post. https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/auto...4R5&ocid=ientp __________________ Also own: 2012 Z4 35is M Sport Adaptive (Atacama Yellow)
	Appreciate 0 Quote

11-07-2018, 06:58 PM	#20
Crazy8 New Member 2 Rep 21 Posts Drives: 2013 Z4 sdrive35is Join Date: May 2018 Location: Los Angeles, California iTrader: (0)	I've been really trying to like it but the more I look at it, the more hideous it looks to me. I'm sure it will be a great performer but it looks like they took several other cars and awkwardly stuck them together. To each their own I guess.... __________________ Current: 2013 Z4 sdrive35is MHD 2+ E50 OTS Tune, Wagner EVO 1 Comp FMIC, ER CP, Tial BOV, VRSF CLDPs, E9X Control Arms, H&R Springs, H&R Sways, Turner Rear Camber Arms, M Performance BBK, BBS CH-R wheels, Stubby, CeramicPro, Late Side-markers, Michelin Pilot 4s Past: 1995 840ci Calypso Red/grey w/a bunch of modz
	Appreciate 1 rjahl996.00 Quote

11-08-2018, 11:03 AM	#22
Zyal8r Private First Class 21 Rep 141 Posts Drives: Z4 E89 Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: South Carolina iTrader: (0)	Looks aside 1. A 4' wider track 2. 8 speed non dct+ a lot of torque 3 19" tires not staggered?? M40 only? 4. Available LSD 5 Fast top down at speed But Piped in exhaust Objectively I think the wide track will give it a whole different super-car presence. But over all the styling seems very derivative and not anything new for a design that is going to be around for a long time. I hope to get a test drive, but the E89 is more than adequate for my needs and I like that heavy metal top.
	Appreciate 0 Quote