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      04-20-2022, 05:44 AM   #133
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For you ! The 2022 Ferrari 'Superfast PU ..

Check out ..The pink lines ! Intravenous drip ?
So, that's where the rads are lying flat with upside down cooling scoop from the air inlet mouth forcing cooling air upwards.
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      04-20-2022, 08:27 AM   #134
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^Good, good video. Not only incredibly quick and good handling, the F1-75 is also reliable. Here's hoping for another "sweep" for Leclerc this weekend.
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      04-20-2022, 09:33 AM   #136
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RBR cars are getting an update after all for Imola, boss Marko has scotched any notion of Horner's that they'll plod along with what they have at the moment so it's full attack mode for the possible maximum points haul of 34 for the winner with FL as you said.
Indeed I read that too.
5 days ago Marko said that the updates were posponed so they're working hard to get things done.
I wonder what the updates include. What I've read no it's just some weightsavings, a modest update package, but I'm sure they don't tell everything
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      04-20-2022, 10:11 AM   #137
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Indeed I read that too.
5 days ago Marko said that the updates were posponed so they're working hard to get things done.
I wonder what the updates include. What I've read no it's just some weightsavings, a modest update package, but I'm sure they don't tell everything
Kudos to them for not letting on what the update(s) are and if they have to then at the last moment.
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      04-20-2022, 10:47 AM   #138
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Indeed I read that too.
5 days ago Marko said that the updates were posponed so they're working hard to get things done.
I wonder what the updates include. What I've read no it's just some weightsavings, a modest update package, but I'm sure they don't tell everything
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Kudos to them for not letting on what the update(s) are and if they have to then at the last moment.
Indeed . But with a big risk , because there is 'NO time to test the new upgrades with the sprint race ...
This can go seriously wrong !
Hopefully they can fix the tyre graining as well , because the RB18 is very bad in managing the tyres .

But actually Red Bull has to come with a response ASAP to beat the unbeatable Ferrari .
If Charlie takes the 34 WDC points at Imola , then It's too late for Red Bull and Mercedes as well...

So let's gamble !
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      04-20-2022, 10:48 AM   #139
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Word is there's no update for Ferrari with no new floor upcoming for Imola and Sainz is more angry now that Lec has got the top cat placing in the team with his own contract not going the way he wants.
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      04-20-2022, 11:12 AM   #140
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You know what's crazy from these pictures? The front wings on the redbull and Ferrari are almost flat. Then contrast it to the merc which runs insane levels of front wing.
To me the Ferrari front wing slats look flatter than the Red Bull slats ...
Nothing wrong with that , because the new Ferrari wind tunnel works really amazing .
Just ask the HAAS team how good it is !

Regarding Mercedes :
According Julien Simon-Chautemps ,

Julien Simon-Chautemps worked many years for Sauber, Renault and Lotus .
Later , Julien worked as Kimi's R. race engineer ..
Well Julien said that Mercedes wont come with big upgrades anymore , because Mercedes is working on a new chassis and car .
From the moment that Mercedes understands the porpoising issue completely , than they will come with a complete new B-Spec car .
=> https://www.gpblog.com/nl/nieuws/108...en-b-spec.html

IMHO . IDK ...
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Not saying it's easy but I'm referring more to the relative nature and issue that Red Bull and Ferrari have seem to have more under control where they're fighting for championship points in comparison to Mercedes where they're seem like they're stuck.

I was excited for a 3 team fight for the title but doesn't look like Mercedes will be involved too much.
Mercedes apologists are some of the sadder F1 fans.
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I'll be watching from Watkins Glen this weekend.

Depending on how the rain effects the grid, I think LEC has best odds of winning. Hopefully RedBull can give Max a car he can finish the race with.

Wildcard: Both McLaren drivers finish top 10 with Lando Norris P4/P5.
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To me the Ferrari front wing slats look flatter than the Red Bull slats ...
Nothing wrong with that , because the new Ferrari wind tunnel works really amazing .
Just ask the HAAS team how good it is !

Regarding Mercedes :
According Julien Simon-Chautemps ,

Julien Simon-Chautemps worked many years for Sauber, Renault and Lotus .
Later , Julien worked as Kimi's R. race engineer ..
Well Julien said that Mercedes wont come with big upgrades anymore , because Mercedes is working on a new chassis and car .
From the moment that Mercedes understands the porpoising issue completely , than they will come with a complete new B-Spec car .
=> https://www.gpblog.com/nl/nieuws/108...en-b-spec.html

IMHO . IDK ...
Yeah it just means the Ferrari is really balanced and the floor is working really well they don't need the extra front wing. Alot less drag for them. With RB it's understandable that they might need more front wing because of their balance issues, and with Merc they have a car that can't run low so they gotta compensate with alot of wing.


No idea what Merc will do. I don't even know if they have the money for a B spec car.
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Merc with another two B spec cars with the budget cap? Wolff must be chasing rainbows.
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Merc with another two B spec cars with the budget cap? Wolff must be chasing rainbows.
Probably that's why Mercedes Isn't coming with a big upgrades package .

It's like saving money to buy a new car !
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Wolff : I've never seen this before !
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Wolff : I've never seen this before !
Fia shook his tree now alright, he's had it so easy since '14, the years ahead hybrid with merc concentrating mostly on chassis development while everyone else had PU and chassis to deal with.
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Merc with another two B spec cars with the budget cap? Wolff must be chasing rainbows.
I thought it was hammy who had a thing for rainbows
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What are the other colors?
RBR - dark blue
Merc - green
Mclaren - orange
Alpine - light blue

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you can only calculate the powerband if you know the time it takes (or distance covered) to get from one speed to another. this graph still shows nothing more than gear ratios without time (or distance) parameter. but then i'm not an F1 engineer.

look i have no doubt what you are saying is correct about the F1 cars but that's not what the graphs are showing, but then I'm not an engineer ... i think the graphs are missing some crucial data, possibly distance.
Agree with some of what you stated, the graph presents a single lap during qualifying.
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Since 2021, Mercedes-AMG and Aston Martin have shared the tasks. At that time, Mercedes used the 585 hp AMG GT R as a safety car and the British used their Vantage. There was a massive upgrade for the Merc safety car this year.

This is now developing into an imbalance that is uncomfortable for Aston Martin. Aston Martin has an output of 535 hp (at 6,000 rpm), which comes from a Merc PU-V8 engine with two turbochargers and a displacement of four liters. This engine with cross-plane crankshaft comes from Merc.

Merc safety car accelerates faster to 100 km/h (3.2 vs 3.6 second)There are not only differences in the engine, but also the gearbox. Mercedes couples the engine to a seven-speed dual-clutch transmission, Aston Martin uses the old eight-speed automatic.

In Bahrain, Bernd Mayländer was around five seconds faster than the old Safety Car AMG GT R (2021).

Aston Martin (the “turtle”) lacks pace.
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Yeah it just means the Ferrari is really balanced and the floor is working really well they don't need the extra front wing. Alot less drag for them. With RB it's understandable that they might need more front wing because of their balance issues, and with Merc they have a car that can't run low so they gotta compensate with alot of wing.


No idea what Merc will do. I don't even know if they have the money for a B spec car.

Who looks like the number #2 driver.

Sainz preparing to strangle Leclerc.
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Since 2021, Mercedes-AMG and Aston Martin have shared the tasks. At that time, Mercedes used the 585 hp AMG GT R as a safety car and the British used their Vantage. There was a massive upgrade for the Merc safety car this year.

This is now developing into an imbalance that is uncomfortable for Aston Martin. Aston Martin has an output of 535 hp (at 6,000 rpm), which comes from a Merc PU-V8 engine with two turbochargers and a displacement of four liters. This engine with cross-plane crankshaft comes from Merc.

Merc safety car accelerates faster to 100 km/h (3.2 vs 3.6 second)There are not only differences in the engine, but also the gearbox. Mercedes couples the engine to a seven-speed dual-clutch transmission, Aston Martin uses the old eight-speed automatic.

In Bahrain, Bernd Mayländer was around five seconds faster than the old Safety Car AMG GT R (2021).

Aston Martin (the “turtle”) lacks pace.
The Merc is eye catching but couldn't they have found some other name other than 'crowd strike' to put on the front of the car with regards to public safety in cities.
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Who looks like the number #2 driver.

Sainz preparing to strangle Leclerc.
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