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      12-30-2022, 05:38 PM   #23
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Unbelieveable. This isn't a "help my dad stop falling" thread, it's a "convince me with complete certainty that a vaccine isn't causing it." That's too bad because it is a topic worthy of discussion. Unsubbing, have a blast.
LOL at such hostility, you definitely fail at science. The ironic thing is that there are MANY ppl who are convinced w absolute certainty that it is 100% not the vax. Ya, ask no questions at all and just take it. Goodbye.
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And I posted in here like an old guy not realizing what it was really about.

Guess I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed. lol
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Early 80's is elderly age no matter how functional he is. Thats old and falls happen to everyone as they get older. There is no medical mystery as you put it. Its surprising to hear you say "the doctors are clueless" as being 80 years old and falling is almost expected at some point.
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Early 80's is elderly age no matter how functional he is. Thats old and falls happen to everyone as they get older. There is no medical mystery as you put it. Its surprising to hear you say "the doctors are clueless" as being 80 years old and falling is almost expected at some point.
Like I said, I can readily accept that but the drs point blank didn't say that and instead said they had no clue, that's the crazy part.
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Like I said, I can readily accept that but the drs point blank didn't say that and instead said they had no clue, that's the crazy part.
It sounds like there is some amount of miscommunication because no doctor is going to say, I have no idea why this 80+ yo man fell. That doesn't make sense. They may have said they cant find a medical reason for his fall, but that's not the same as saying they have no clue why he fell.
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It sounds like there is some amount of miscommunication because no doctor is going to say, I have no idea why this 80+ yo man fell. That doesn't make sense.
There may be, perhaps he has amnesia (too) lol. Like I said, I'm just relaying what I know. Anyway.
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It sounds like there is some amount of miscommunication because no doctor is going to say, I have no idea why this 80+ yo man fell. That doesn't make sense.

Interestingly the Washington Post does a medical story piece called Medical Mysteries https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...cal-mysteries/
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One other possibility is that he is developing Parkinson’s. Many people do not have the stereotypical shaking hands or head movement, but they do develop a shuffling gait with a forward body lean. This means they catch the toe of the foot very easily, and they are already in a weight-forward posture that topples them over.

Unless your father is going to a trained gerontologist, the doctors may not have the skills to determine the cause. My wife is a credentialed gerontology nurse practitioner who provided gerontology primary care. She was often frustrated by having patients come in with prescriptions or care plans from family practitioners that were very inappropriate for a person in their 80’s. Most doctors have very limited experience with patients of that age.
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My Mum started having falls & not mostly not being able to get herself of the floor back in late 2018, at the time she was 88 & living ‘alone’ in her sheltered accommodation flat. There were a few times when she’d managed to get to her phone & call me or reach the emergency cord in her flat & there were also times when I’d arrive for my daily visit & find that she’d been on the floor for hours.
After having had to call an ambulance for her a few times she was eventually admitted to hospital & eventually diagnosed with Parkinson’s at that time she didn’t have ‘the shakes’ & was in hospital for nearly 3 months.
When the doctors decided that she was well enough to be discharged she was adamant that she would return to her flat & couldn’t be persuaded otherwise.
Within 6 months she had had more falls & had deteriorated to the point that she couldn’t walk or get herself to the bathroom or kitchen & the 3 times a day care package that was in place clearly wasn’t working.
She was readmitted to hospital for a further month & I finally got her a place in a nursing home, she’s now 92, had 4 covid vaccinations & has had covid 3 times & pulled through each time, despite having being quite unwell.
I am pleased that she had the vaccinations & suspect she may not have pulled through had she not been vaccinated, two other residents that had refused vaccinations both caught covid over Christmas & both were admitted to hospital & died.
There has been a covid ‘outbreak’ at her nursing home for 3 weeks now with a lot of the staff & residents testing positive with some becoming more unwell than others.
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My Mum started having falls & not mostly not being able to get herself of the floor back in late 2018, at the time she was 88 & living ‘alone’ in her sheltered accommodation flat. There were a few times when she’d managed to get to her phone & call me or reach the emergency cord in her flat & there were also times when I’d arrive for my daily visit & find that she’d been on the floor for hours.
After having had to call an ambulance for her a few times she was eventually admitted to hospital & eventually diagnosed with Parkinson’s at that time she didn’t have ‘the shakes’ & was in hospital for nearly 3 months.
When the doctors decided that she was well enough to be discharged she was adamant that she would return to her flat & couldn’t be persuaded otherwise.
Within 6 months she had had more falls & had deteriorated to the point that she couldn’t walk or get herself to the bathroom or kitchen & the 3 times a day care package that was in place clearly wasn’t working.
She was readmitted to hospital for a further month & I finally got her a place in a nursing home, she’s now 92, had 4 covid vaccinations & has had covid 3 times & pulled through each time, despite having being quite unwell.
I am pleased that she had the vaccinations & suspect she may not have pulled through had she not been vaccinated, two other residents that had refused vaccinations both caught covid over Christmas & both were admitted to hospital & died.
There has been a covid ‘outbreak’ at her nursing home for 3 weeks now with a lot of the staff & residents testing positive with some becoming more [...]
Glad to hear she has pulled through.
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