F1 2021: Bahrain GP - Sakhir (March 28)

///M Power-Belgium · 03-28-2021, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Killed by Death

Does calling someone "Friend" insinuate fuck off in Belgium and the states?

Asking for an acquaintance

Only love my *FRIEND !

Bartledoo · 03-28-2021, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MKSixer

It is the inside wheels that matter. Any part of the car that is touching the line is deemed to be inside the track.

I know. I was saying I don't understand what point Belgium is trying to make by posting a photo showing hamilton on track.

Bongoxxx · 03-28-2021, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

HAM's defence was going wide in turn 4, while MAX was overtaking on the outside .
At that moment HAM was exceeding the track limits as well !

Your own picture you posted (post #133) proves otherwise...you must have at least a portion of the wheel on the white line. From the picture you posted you can clearly see HAM is within the limits.

But please give us another excuse.

Fastest car + MAX = P2

Killed by Death · 03-28-2021, 08:26 PM

Race summary through a Ferrari fans eyes. Red Bull and Max blew it BIG! RB should have pitted Max to cover scHAM. That would have won him the race. In the future only worry about scHAM since Bottas sucks and has bad luck. But since they left him out the turn 4 incident occurred. Max should have waited for the straight to pass. That would have won him the race. Speaking of turn 4 I begrudgingly side with scHAM. I was watching live and have seen all the pics. He never had all 4 tires across the white line. IMHO that was the standard they were enforcing throughout the race. Max had to give the spot back but did it in the wrong spot and lost. I also don't believe Max could have pulled out 5 seconds to cover a penalty (IF that would have been the penalty?)

That is 3 major screw ups. I'd either have my chief strategist head on a stake or hope he learned a valuable lesson. I don't know which! There you have it.

That and Ferrari suck AGAIN

Hope to join the fight again someday

///M Power-Belgium · 03-28-2021, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by rcracin

Be nice. It’s all love here.

I'm not so sure about that !

Let's say sometimes...

NickyC · 03-28-2021, 08:38 PM

Well glad I had some time to watch the full race as it was worth it. Nice to see Alonso back in there, new teams, and quite a driver mix up compared to 2020. Very good race with a fair conclusion, hopefully Max and RB can keep the pace up and make it a competitive season. Perez will definitely improve, he just had some bad luck today.

No real opinion on the pass controversy, with hindsight Max should have let the re-pass happen in a better spot but what can you do. I’m just glad to see it competitive outside of one team/two drivers.

Oh and HAAS? Follow my advice from the moment I heard you were entering F1....GET OUT. The destined to fail experiment is over.

Bongoxxx · 03-28-2021, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by NickyC

Oh and HAAS? Follow my advice from the moment I heard you were entering F1....GET OUT. The destined to fail experiment is over.

But, but we have a new new spinster, oops I mean sponsor who will fund the team as long as his son keeps a seat...

Any bets on whether or not Mazespin will finish a race this year?

justint5387 · 03-28-2021, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Well my friend . My eyes never lied to me .

Track limit is 4 wheels off the red/white curb.

M5Rick · 03-29-2021, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Well my friend . My eyes never lied to me .

Perfect pic my friend, everyone can see (unless they're blind) if Max didn't do that little jink to the left them hammy would have rammed him off the track not conceding that he was in front at that moment..

M5Rick · 03-29-2021, 02:46 AM

Wolff: ''I am equally confused like you.At the beginning of the race it was said that track limits WOULDN'T BE SANCTIONED and then in the race SUDDENLY WE HEARD that if you continue to run wide it would be seen as an advantage and 'could' cause a potential penalty''.
Sort it Masi.

npe · 03-29-2021, 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by M5theonlyone

Perfect pic my friend, everyone can see (unless they're blind) if Max didn't do that little jink to the left them hammy would have rammed him off the track not conceding that he was in front at that moment..

Get your eyes checked

BTW, how much do you get paid to give Max virtual handjobs every day?

M5Rick · 03-29-2021, 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by npe

Get your eyes checked

BTW, how much do you get paid to give Max virtual handjobs every day?

I go by *133 it's the one that counts dope.

SenorFunkyPants · 03-29-2021, 03:34 AM

The belief in the pits was that track limits at turn 4 would not be enforced during the race.
In the race Horner told Verstappen that Hamilton was exceeding track limits at turn four and Verstappen could do the same.
Hamilton was later told to stop exceeding track limits at 4 otherwise race control would give him a penalty...so he did.
I didn't hear Verstappen get the same warning...maybe he did.
Anyway fair shout by race control...overtaking by going off the track and gaining a lasting advantage is against the regulations.
Verstappen already got a time penalty for passing Kimi off track on the last lap at Austin a few years ago.

M5Rick · 03-29-2021, 04:13 AM

Masi can't make up or suggest rules during a race, they must be in black and white BEFORE any race action.

SenorFunkyPants · 03-29-2021, 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by M5theonlyone

Masi can't make up or suggest rules during a race, they must be in black and white BEFORE any race action.

Indeed...the whole track limits issue is getting out of hand.
I'd be...during the race 3 warnings for exceeding track limits then a 5 sec penalty added.
Overtaking by exceeding track limits...give the place back and can't repass for 2 turns or take a 30 sec penalty.
Or something like that.

M5Rick · 03-29-2021, 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by SenorFunkyPants

Indeed...the whole track limits issue is getting out of hand.
I'd be...during the race 3 warnings for exceeding track limits then a 5 sec penalty added.
Overtaking by exceeding track limits...give the place back and can't repass for 2 turns or take a 30 sec penalty.
Or something like that.

I'd also add if there was contact off the grey track or even partially then the person directly behind causing avoidable contact is penalised 60 seconds.

///M Power-Belgium · 03-29-2021, 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by npe

Get your eyes checked

BTW, how much do you get paid to give Max virtual handjobs every day?

Mate .Let me help you , with "YOUR" eyes ...

///M Power-Belgium · 03-29-2021, 05:13 AM

SenorFunkyPants · 03-29-2021, 05:14 AM

https://twitter.com/F1/status/137622...mits-turn-4%2F

Watch from 35 secs onwards
Max is past Hamilton before turn 4.
Verstappen puts 4 wheels off the track.
Hamilton keeps 2 wheels on the track.
Case closed.

M5Rick · 03-29-2021, 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Mate .Let me help you , with "YOUR" eyes ...

Obviously everyone should see there would be no quarter given by hammy if Max hadn't jinked left..it would be GUARANTEED contact with Max going off like hammy did to Albon before.

///M Power-Belgium · 03-29-2021, 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by M5theonlyone

Obviously everyone should see there would be no quarter given by hammy if Max hadn't jinked left..it would be GUARANTEED contact with Max going off like hammy did to Albon before.

HAM's defence :

HAM was going "extremely wide" ,while MAX was overtaking on the outside .

In other words : HAM forced MAX going off-track and exceeding the track limits.

That was HAM's defence , and the only way to keep his P1 !

If you ask me : It wasn't the cleanest way...

SenorFunkyPants · 03-29-2021, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by M5theonlyone

'Clean' is not a word immediately recognisable in hammy's vocab.

Que?...are we watching the same race?
https://streamable.com/1nqz5u

03-28-2021, 08:26 PM	#136
Killed by Death Colonel 9197 Rep 2,710 Posts Drives: '20 M2C, '23 X3 M40i Ordered Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: North Carolina iTrader: (0) Garage List 2021 Jeep Rubicon [0.00]	Race summary through a Ferrari fans eyes. Red Bull and Max blew it BIG! RB should have pitted Max to cover scHAM. That would have won him the race. In the future only worry about scHAM since Bottas sucks and has bad luck. But since they left him out the turn 4 incident occurred. Max should have waited for the straight to pass. That would have won him the race. Speaking of turn 4 I begrudgingly side with scHAM. I was watching live and have seen all the pics. He never had all 4 tires across the white line. IMHO that was the standard they were enforcing throughout the race. Max had to give the spot back but did it in the wrong spot and lost. I also don't believe Max could have pulled out 5 seconds to cover a penalty (IF that would have been the penalty?) That is 3 major screw ups. I'd either have my chief strategist head on a stake or hope he learned a valuable lesson. I don't know which! There you have it. That and Ferrari suck AGAIN Hope to join the fight again someday
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NickyC Major General 14473 Rep 9,564 Posts Drives: M4 CS. Former G82, x2 F82, F80 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Jacked out of my mind iTrader: (22)	Well glad I had some time to watch the full race as it was worth it. Nice to see Alonso back in there, new teams, and quite a driver mix up compared to 2020. Very good race with a fair conclusion, hopefully Max and RB can keep the pace up and make it a competitive season. Perez will definitely improve, he just had some bad luck today. No real opinion on the pass controversy, with hindsight Max should have let the re-pass happen in a better spot but what can you do. I’m just glad to see it competitive outside of one team/two drivers. Oh and HAAS? Follow my advice from the moment I heard you were entering F1....GET OUT. The destined to fail experiment is over.
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M5Rick Lieutenant General 42378 Rep 14,575 Posts Drives: M5 F10 DCT Gunmetal Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Southern England iTrader: (0) Garage List '11 Honda Type S VTEC [0.00] '10 CLK200k S cabrio [0.50]	Wolff: ''I am equally confused like you.At the beginning of the race it was said that track limits WOULDN'T BE SANCTIONED and then in the race SUDDENLY WE HEARD that if you continue to run wide it would be seen as an advantage and 'could' cause a potential penalty''. Sort it Masi.
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SenorFunkyPants Brigadier General 2459 Rep 4,356 Posts Drives: 2019 M5 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	The belief in the pits was that track limits at turn 4 would not be enforced during the race. In the race Horner told Verstappen that Hamilton was exceeding track limits at turn four and Verstappen could do the same. Hamilton was later told to stop exceeding track limits at 4 otherwise race control would give him a penalty...so he did. I didn't hear Verstappen get the same warning...maybe he did. Anyway fair shout by race control...overtaking by going off the track and gaining a lasting advantage is against the regulations. Verstappen already got a time penalty for passing Kimi off track on the last lap at Austin a few years ago.
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SenorFunkyPants Brigadier General 2459 Rep 4,356 Posts Drives: 2019 M5 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	https://twitter.com/F1/status/137622...mits-turn-4%2F Watch from 35 secs onwards Max is past Hamilton before turn 4. Verstappen puts 4 wheels off the track. Hamilton keeps 2 wheels on the track. Case closed. Last edited by SenorFunkyPants; 03-29-2021 at 05:32 AM..
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