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04-17-2019, 03:54 PM | #89 | |
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I'm in the same situation. I have Engineering, Maintenance, IT as I'm the only one that has A+ and Network + certification....and a few different Cisco router certs. By now I could have finished the MSCE certification. Plus we have an old Siemens phone server that still runs by Telnet....and I'm the only one with that and Nortel experience. But once they found out I was proficient in SAP and Chempax, I also got a lot of the purchasing and receiving dumped in my lap. But that was my own fault. I'm OCD with numbers, so everything I do is documented to the extreme with account cost centers, invoice numbers, receivers, and thorough descriptions. Once corporate found that out, they want me doing it as they don't have to go back and correct something someone else entered wrong. I find it odd that the company president comes to me looking for each months KPI's when we have a financial guy at our facility with a VP title. So I'm everyone else's backup, but I have no backup myself. I have 4 weeks of vacation a year. I maybe get to use 2 weeks. 1 week for the beach, and 1 week that I take in odd days here and there when I need to take a day for a personal reason. And I can always expect a backlog when I come back to the office.
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Now with this being said, we have recently (within the last 2 years) realized how dated some of our companies processes are and are currently going through a growth phase to where ALL of our processes and SOP's are being rewritten. Honest employees you say? "Somewhat" is a very accurate term to be used here. I'll just say there is a lot of slight of hand that goes on.....for now. I see our new systems changing this very quickly. The problem will be changing the mentality of the individuals who have worked here for 20+ years that have allowed technology and society pass them by. Last edited by King Rudi; 04-17-2019 at 04:21 PM.. |
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Although I do have a background in network installation and data, I do not have the certs that you do. I have all 20 little fingers and toes in everything that I possibly can. I know enough about everything to be somewhat proficient but definitely not a master. I'm also our facilities unofficial IT guy. If there is a pc issue I am contacted before IT. Also like you, no one here is able to be my back up as my everyday is different and no project is handled in the same fashion. Apparently being flexible, quick and knowing what needs to be done versus doing the same mundane things day in/day out isn't common. This is what makes us different. Hell, my only back up is my boss and there are times that he comes to me for advice. I'm constantly asking him where his maintenance guys are with tasks so I know how to proceed with scheduling and the logistics of the projects that I'm working on. |
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then that became me in my last internship because the IT guy was a part-time dude and would only come in every other day im not the kind of guy to underdeliver or underperform but i learned to keep my mouth shut about knowing some stuff about networking/computers after that |
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Typically I would be a nice guy and just jump in a take care of it, but I've learned not to. Had I initiated this process today, it would have been my fault that it isn't working. I hate to be this way but it's the safest in this type of environment. |
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Especially when you just mentioned SOP's.....and the fact we are doing the same thing. All that work....but I can't get it through the "higher-up" heads that it doesn't help unless there is also a culture change involved and there is exhaustive training involved. Like you, we have guys who have been there 15-20 years. And they all freelance. I can guarantee that none of them follow any SOP the same as they think they know best. I tell upper management that the only way you will get them onboard is to involve them in the revisions. It's scary as we are a specialty chemical company. We handle some very dangerous reactions, and these guys don't even understand the concept of simple things such as exothermic reactions. Hell....the other day I found a guy pumping out of a reactor to a storage tank without any type of atmospheric break in place. The only way I could get him to understand what could happen was to get a plastic water bottle, poke a hole in the bottom, let it leak out with the cap on.....and watch the bottle crumple from the small amount of vacuum it created. He looked at me like I was performing a magic trick. This is what we are dealing with.
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also, it's almost impossible to mess up hooking a computer up!!!!! so long as you know your shapes (which, if you don't, the fuck are you doing at an office?) you will get it to work |
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what is a "pci cable"?? a pci port is on the motherboard to hook up other stuff internally like graphics cards or expansion cards. which if we're being REALLY pedantic, given this is a brand new machine and given it needs a displayport the motherboard probably doesn't even have legacy pci but probably pci-express. |
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You have no idea how unique that is. I pride myself on it and it's what's gotten me to where I'm at. I'm not a master of an one thing, but there's almost nothing I cant take on and save when someone else finds themselves in trouble. Engineering, manufacturing, IT, Ops, logistics, project management, general leadership. It's a tricky thing to recruit and hire for, but when I find someone like you guys I hire them quick and get them plugged in. One of my guys started as a part-time contractor 7 years ago. He's now a Director with 2 departments under him. I can point him to anything in any part of the company and it's done. He's the most versatile of my direct reports and I rely on him heavily. Unfortunately, he doesn't have a degree from a fancy school or a bunch of certs so he's under-appreciated by our CEO and CFO who are both MBAs and see that as some sort of prereq for success. I bashed through that through sheer force of will, but my Director is a bit more laid back and so he's likely at the end of his ladder in our company. It's too bad. |
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Again, I applaud your success and recognition of such a great asset for your organization. Bravo!
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Out of curiosity I use the old surge protector on her old computer and it yielded the same result as Monday. I used a new surge protector on the old computer and it started right up. Long story short (I know, too late for that) the entire problem was that her surge protector wasn't supplying enough power to start up the old computer. An entire week of IT phone calls, stress, a total of 7 people working on it and ultimately a new pc purchase; but no one bothered to check the power supply. In all honesty, I'm the asshole here because I should have volunteered my knowledge rather than letting them handle it. I could have saved hours of lost work, the capital spent on a new pc and the plant manager 3 hours of driving for an unneeded cable. Had someone asked, I would have helped but I assumed (yes, I realize what this means) that common sense could have/should have been used by any of the other 6 individuals that had their hands in this. This is a small sampling of life inside these walls.....for something as simple as a low voltage scenario that could have been remedied by replacing a surge protector. I don't know whether to laugh, cry, feel like I'm an asshole, make fun of other people or start drinking behind my desk. |
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I once worked for an extremely well known company in New England that made some very cool, groundbreaking, products. I was managing the Sustaining Engineering and Manufacturing Engineering groups at the time. The Product Development team was staffed and lead by MIT grads, Harvard grads, etc. Extraordinarily smart and completely full of themselves. Many of these dudes later went on to work at Apple, Tesla, Google, etc. Anyway, one of my service techs was frustrated with a particular electrical connector corroding; a condition that could lead to a dangerous accident for the product user. I went up to the Product Development "palace" as we called it, and chatted with the head of electrical engineering. "That's impossible" be told me. The connectors are gold plated, they cannot and will not ever corrode. If I has $1 for every time a full of himself engineer told me his part would never fail..... I said "I understand what you are saying but I'm telling you not only is it not impossible, I have one downstairs right now. Follow me, let's go look." He refused. He was so full of himself and so arrogant that he couldn't be bothered to get up from his God Damn desk and go look at a problem that could cause our customer serious harm. Frustrated, I went down to the shop, grabbed the part, and dropped it on the dude's desk. His eyes got real big as he looked at it. "This cant happen! How can this happen" This should not be possible." Yeah dude, how about you listen to the men and women who repair this product ever single day. No they arent MIT Engineering school grads but it doesn't matter. They literally know this product better than you do. I have no time for arrogance. You earn my respect through what you do, not through what you studied. |
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As for work, the way I see things are from a CEO's perspective. If I was the owner and knew that funds were spent on a new piece of equipment when someone who is sitting 10 feet away could have fixed it, I'd be upset. I did mention in our production meeting that if someone has an issue to please come speak with me first before we exhaust funds, loss of productivity, etc. on something simple. |
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That is exactly why I spend as much of my time on the plant floor as possible. Sure we have "bad apples", but we also have others who have invaluable experience that they can share. The biggest problem we have is communication. I can go to 3 different people and get 3 different stories. Only when I get them all together does the truth start to come out. But my biggest pet peeve is money. Most of the managers here have the attitude that it isn't their money. I look at it like I am a "Steward" of the company, so I treat it like it's my personal money being spent. And I am one cheap bastard!
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what did the guy do? go all out, i'm talking refurbish the whole office and it's not like my dad worked on a folding table, either. with that all the other employees started spending money too. you know the binders you see at staples and go "wow that's a cool binder"? those were used to file random stuff... it's easy to spend money that's not yours but my dad always says the ones who do are rarely the ones who get promotions he says he managed to return stuff to usual in 2017 - he returned to the office in 2013... two years to mess it up, 4 years to clean it |
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Yes, I managed a couple of software development teams at two previous jobs. Thankfully both times they were for new products and I was able to hand pick/hire my team. Took a while but I got some great guys. Arrogant coders with no social skills need not apply. Same applies for engineers. I'll take an engineer (software or otherwise) who is a 7 out of 10 in skillset and can interact seamlessly with the rest of the company any day over a 10/10 coding genius who sits in a dark corner in his own filth, covered in Doritos dust and head lice.
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