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Spread your FUD stories somewhere else.
The 3er EV is on it's way and it will have plenty of range. Quote:
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05-18-2018, 10:39 AM | #47 |
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I agree with most on here, I think the original i concepts and cars were fantastic, they are getting long in the tooth with the design, (I think it's coming up on almost 10 years since they were initially debuted as concepts and the production versions didn't change much). They still look great after all this time and that to me is a testament to how well designed they were/are.
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05-18-2018, 10:52 AM | #48 |
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Q: Why can't EVs just look like "normal" BMWs?
A: Private sales of EVs simply aren't successful when they aren't immediately recognized as an EV. I believe this is due to the need for EVs to deliver clear "virtue signals" that the owner/driver is environmentally conscious. This messaging is a significant part of the appeal of these vehicles.
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EXACTLY what I was thinking... quite ingenious to create a side "grill" identity using a vehicles windows....
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Why do all traditional car-markers think that an electric car should ‘look special’ by introducing strange design elements? It’s only a car.
Just look at Tesla: design a beautiful car without trying to differentiate electric cars designs from combustion engine car designs. |
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The consumer demographic for the EV and the Hybrid are related, but they are not the same. A Range Extending 3 series would be very very different from the current 330e hybrid.
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Are you not side stepping the argument? It's entirely possible to have a good looking car with good aerodynamics. Just that all the manufacturers have been buying time until battery technology develops further.
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A hybrid vehicle gives up this advantage, and, in fact, actually makes the situation twofold worse. Not only are you adding another propulsion system to the mix, but the complex integration between the two systems adds significant complexity to the vehicle. Furthermore, the manufacturing costs are compounded. The hybrid value equation is not there and for any purpose outside of "going green" never will be. And yes, with the state of the art in EV tech today in May 2018, the EV value equation is also not yet there for most. But unlike the hybrid solution, EV's time can and absolutely will come. |
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It's only a car, is a Camry. It's only a car, is a Focus. EVs look different because those who drive them want different. I like the my car is made of carbon fiber and only MSRP for $55K. I like that it looks like the future, because it is just that. If you're not ready for them, then just say that. Don't have to throw shade because you like beige with 17in wheels. Same old is just same and old. We're doing something new here for the first time in 90 years. Personally, I'm ready for flying cars, but let's take these baby steps.
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And the manufacturer wins with lower warranty service costs and lower preowned vehicle sales costs. In theory this could be passed to the consumer in the form of lower MSRP, although that isn’t necessarily likely and would be tough to measure in any case. The manufacturer does lose a little in out of warranty parts, but it’s likely to be offset by the others. |
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The i3 is an amazing car, I test drove it and was incredibly impressed. But the exterior design unfortunately is fuggly. Why are these high-tech EV's ugly? Make them look cool and sexy then they will sell, it's that simple!
Here in New York State and in New Jersey I see tons of Teslas. BMW you have the talent and the Designers and if you don't then it's time to hire a different crew. Let them go for it and make something kick ass, aggressive and sexy. Sleek and aerodynamic! |
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![]() I find it funny that people think EVs are gonna take over in the near future. I live in a highly populated area just outside NYC. Barely see any full EVs. I think the auto manufacturers are taking a gamble trying to shove this crap down our throats here in the US. Time will tell.
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Silhouttes always looks good, to say the least
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What we know / rumors about the "iNext" so far:
- probably named i9 - mid-size crossover (think i-Pace shape) - expected in 2021 - concept in 2018 - 550 - 700 km / 350 - 450 miles range - 350 kW charging likely - Full-screen HUD? - Autonomy level 3, upgradable to level 4 or higher |
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It's no small accident that the I-Pace and iX3 are suvs/crossovers. Manufacturers are well aware of what the consumer trends are. California is the 5th largest economy in the world. It's safe to say that what people are buying here is pretty important and they would be paying attention.
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