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      09-18-2018, 11:48 AM   #45
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Also, I really don't get that interior. The wooden coffee table armrest up front. The "it puts the lotion on it's skin" front seat fabric. The slab of granite rear seats. It's all very confusing and not in a "it's wild but really cool looking" way.
I'm also really not a fan of the Tesla 3's "lets replace the whole dash by slapping an iPad in the middle" approach so the "let's slap a whole TV in the middle of the dash" approach is even worse. One of the things I like about BMWs is that they, up until recently, have honest to gods gauges and switches. (Even if it keeps getting them called "boring" in reviews.)
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      09-18-2018, 01:18 PM   #46
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Also, I really don't get that interior.
Adding to your point... check out the flat and unremarkable door cards, the schizophrenically conflicting angles of the dashboard, the two mismatched sharp-cornered screens, the austere 'Hello Kitty' seating...

Stylish George Jetson would be appalled. If this is the future, just kill me now.*
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      09-18-2018, 03:13 PM   #47
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The only thing I like are the suicide doors. Because if my bmw looked like that I'd kill myself.
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      09-18-2018, 03:56 PM   #48
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      09-18-2018, 04:23 PM   #49
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Will all electric car motors essentially feel the same? Each petrol engine just about have their own unique personality, especially between different brands. For example, BMW's inline-6 feels nothing like Audi's V6. Or will you be able to distinguish an Audi from a BMW or Mercedes purely by how the electric motor feels? It seems like the differences will purely be in the chassis dynamics and drivetrain(awd systems).
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      09-18-2018, 04:34 PM   #50
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Can someone answer this? Will all electric car powertrains essentially feel the same? Each petrol engine just about have their own unique personality, especially between different brands. For example, BMW's inline-6 feels nothing like Audi's V6. Or will you be able to distinguish an Audi from a BMW or Mercedes purely by how the electric motor feels? It seems like the differences will purely be in the chassis dynamics and drivetrain(awd systems).
honestly, i don't care how the motors "feel" as long as they are tuned for high torque and power. i'm more addicted to the instant torque and no downshifts than listening to engine noise and feeling the vibrations.

my guess is different brands will have different low end vs top end characteristics. also, it's gonna be a clash of expertise and engineering to see who can produce an EV with consistent track performance. rightnow no brand has cracked that.
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      09-18-2018, 04:57 PM   #51
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      09-18-2018, 05:26 PM   #52
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Surprised no one has mentioned the floating C pillar treatment, which has to be the most banal design element in use today. That BMW would choose to ape it on this concept is a very sad commentary on their design "followship". Whoever approved this should be ashamed.
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      09-18-2018, 11:03 PM   #53
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Oh, now I remember what it looks like. Remember the Aztec??? It was the family car in Breaking Bad.
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      09-19-2018, 07:39 PM   #55
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Is the grille gonna be separate like the new X3, semi-connected like the 8er and M2 Competition, or totally connected like this concept? I imagine it won't be like this since it doesn't need all the sensors...
The kidney grille for the new 4er is Connected as per the new normal.
And it is tall and takes up the front of the fascia with the plate holding in the middle. It's like the gaping jaws of a great white shark. Low snout with strong bonnet strafes. Side Gills. And muscular definition at the front and rear arches similar to the haunches of the 8. And a tapered strong dynamic roof line. It's a completely Individual design.
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      09-19-2018, 07:54 PM   #56
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the rear seat fabric looks like a public transit cloth, designed to hide stains...looks really really bad. the more i look at the pictures, the worse it is.
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      09-19-2018, 10:48 PM   #57
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the rear seat fabric looks like a public transit cloth, designed to hide stains...looks really really bad. the more i look at the pictures, the worse it is.
I think that's the optional dog protection package.
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      09-19-2018, 11:43 PM   #58
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Surprised no one has mentioned the floating C pillar treatment, which has to be the most banal design element in use today.
Probably because everyone's turned their heads in disgust with the front end, so their eyes never make it to the rear of this monstrosity.
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Is the grille gonna be separate like the new X3, semi-connected like the 8er and M2 Competition, or totally connected like this concept? I imagine it won't be like this since it doesn't need all the sensors...
The kidney grille for the new 4er is Connected as per the new normal.
And it is tall and takes up the front of the fascia with the plate holding in the middle. It's like the gaping jaws of a great white shark. Low snout with strong bonnet strafes. Side Gills. And muscular definition at the front and rear arches similar to the haunches of the 8. And a tapered strong dynamic roof line. It's a completely Individual design.
"The New Normal" is an interesting statement considering it isn't consistent across the line-up.

Maybe you can expand on your comment.
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      09-20-2018, 12:46 AM   #60
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The kidney grille for the new 4er is Connected as per the new normal.
And it is tall and takes up the front of the fascia with the plate holding in the middle. It's like the gaping jaws of a great white shark. Low snout with strong bonnet strafes. Side Gills. And muscular definition at the front and rear arches similar to the haunches of the 8. And a tapered strong dynamic roof line. It's a completely Individual design.
I'm trying to take in what you wrote. It sounds like a huge grill or is it more like the 8series grill above.
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      09-20-2018, 07:25 AM   #61
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I'm trying to take in what you wrote. It sounds like a huge grill or is it more like the 8series grill above.
I think Scott commented on the 4 series on the transporter truck saying the kidneys would be taller and less wide to where the license plate will fit in the middle of the kidneys.
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I think Scott commented on the 4 series on the transporter truck saying the kidneys would be taller and less wide to where the license plate will fit in the middle of the kidneys.
I figure that is what he was saying.

Went back to look at his past posts. The forum reaction should be interesting.

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i love the futuristic design that's so popular for the past 10 years among all car manufacturers, yet it's not a practical one.
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I figure that is what he was saying.

Went back to look at his past posts. The forum reaction should be interesting.

They're still bitching about the X5's larger kidneys. Will all be doom and gloom until they start hitting the lots and most people will come around to it I'm sure.
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Will all electric car motors essentially feel the same? Each petrol engine just about have their own unique personality, especially between different brands. For example, BMW's inline-6 feels nothing like Audi's V6. Or will you be able to distinguish an Audi from a BMW or Mercedes purely by how the electric motor feels? It seems like the differences will purely be in the chassis dynamics and drivetrain(awd systems).
According to my experiences with the i3 I can only say, I feel the BMW in the dynamics
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