When will Max win his first championship?

e90335e36m3 · 03-26-2021, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MKSixer

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Originally Posted by e90335e36m3

I clearly don't convey sarcasm on forums any better than I understand it, but all sarcasm aside, I genuinely believe that most of the winning in F1 is on the account of the technology. Yes, driver talent is mandatory and there are truly more talented drivers than others, but making the GOAT argument with the level of confidence you do, discounts the technology advantage too much.

To be clear, LH winning is primarily on the account of the technological advantage he has enjoyed over his career.

Likewise, if MV starts dominating this year, it is that same technological advantage that he will start enjoying this year over the competition.

I hope he does start winning, because it absolutely supports the opinion I've tried to state over the last few posts.

Not really sure where you stand if MV starts winning MK, all sarcasm aside but I think your GOAT argument takes a hit.

You are incorrect, my friend. Review the 2009 season.

That's a politician's answer. I'll have to live with it.

yco · 03-26-2021, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by e90335e36m3

That's a politician's answer. I'll have to live with it.

i guess you re overlooking how many wet races Lewis won which is the ultimate equalizer for F1.. he even did the same thing last year in rallycross circuit of Istanbul.. Merc' wasnt the fastest car on track actually 3rd or 4th fastest car that weekend.. not even mentioning McLaren days..

MKSixer · 03-26-2021, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by e90335e36m3

That's a politician's answer. I'll have to live with it.

I used to be a lobbyist. How is that is that a politician's answer? You made an assertion that he's always had the best technology and this is patently false. The 2009 Brawn GP and the RB cars were FAR faster.

You are ignoring the fact that HAM won 2 races and had 4 pole positions in that dreadful car. It was the 6th fastest car on the grid, objectively.

This is a fact.

Mr. Verstappen has no single year of performance that matches this and but for the exception of his time at Torro Rosso, he has been in a top 3 car his entire career.

MKSixer · 03-26-2021, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

What are your expectations for the QF and the race ?

I will tell you after Q3.

e90335e36m3 · 03-26-2021, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MKSixer

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Originally Posted by e90335e36m3

That's a politician's answer. I'll have to live with it.

I used to be a lobbyist. How is that is that a politician's answer? You made an assertion that he's always had the best technology and this is patently false. The 2009 Brawn GP and the RB cars were FAR faster.

You are ignoring the fact that HAM won 2 races and had 4 pole positions in that dreadful car. It was the 6th fastest car on the grid, objectively.

This is a fact.

Mr. Verstappen has no single year of performance that matches this and but for the exception of his time at Torro Rosso, he has been in a top 3 car his entire career.

A lobbyist? I concede, I don't have enough intellectual capital to continue this conversation.

SenorFunkyPants · 03-27-2021, 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by MKSixer

Mr. Verstappen has no single year of performance that matches this and but for the exception of his time at Torro Rosso, he has been in a top 3 car his entire career.

SenorFunkyPants · 03-27-2021, 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by M5theonlyone

^ You must have dug the library to get that one out.

Its just some meme on Instagram.
Maybe I should repost it every other day...I know how much MBelgium likes to see the same thing posted over and over and over...

Killed by Death · 03-27-2021, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by MKSixer

Iceman. LOL! Gifted the championship when his team mate slowed down to let him get ahead. False Champion.

Never said he was the best driver but he is my favorite driver

It would be nice for my favorite driver to win championships but that's not how I pick them. No fair weather fan here

MKSixer · 03-27-2021, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by e90335e36m3

A lobbyist? I concede, I don't have enough intellectual capital to continue this conversation.

A former stint in that career has nothing to do with the facts in a situation.

Will you address this, please?

You made an assertion that he's always had the best technology and this is patently false. The 2009 Brawn GP and the RB cars were FAR faster.

You are ignoring the fact that HAM won 2 races and had 4 pole positions in that dreadful car. It was the 6th fastest car on the grid, objectively.

This is a fact.

Mr. Verstappen has no single year of performance that matches this and but for the exception of his time at Torro Rosso, he has been in a top 3 car his entire career.

Unless you're trolling...

MKSixer · 03-27-2021, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Killed by Death

Never said he was the best driver but he is my favorite driver

It would be nice for my favorite driver to win championships but that's not how I pick them. No fair weather fan here

You are the kind of F1 fan I love and respect. And have to troll a bit!!

I loved McLaren and still do and my big problem with Kimi was his fastest laps at the end of the races after he had been trundling around in the top 6 or 8 in the field. It was infuriating!!

His one lap speed and race craft are impeccable and fair, respectively. A good driver from whom many younger drivers could learn a lot from!!

///M Power-Belgium · 03-27-2021, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by MKSixer

I will tell you after Q3.

My good friend . I am waiting..... ???

Chappers 71 · 03-27-2021, 11:50 AM

Well done to Max & RB, taking poll with 3 purple sectors

Hopefully Max doesn't get mugged by the two Mercs off the start with no team mate to provide interference & put himself off the track trying to win the lost places back

Am looking forward to hopefully watching some 'proper' racing this season & a close Championship fight between Lewis & Max....may the best car win!

///M Power-Belgium · 03-27-2021, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Chappers 71

Well done to Max & RB, taking poll with 3 purple sectors

Hopefully Max doesn't get mugged by the two Mercs off the start with no team mate to provide interference & put himself off the track trying to win the lost places back

Am looking forward to hopefully watching some 'proper' racing this season & a close Championship fight between Lewis & Max....may the best car win

I couldn't agree more ! It's a dream scenario ...

Yeah . As usual the Mercs were sandbagging ...And Ferrari was a surprise as well !

Tomorrow MAX has to do it alone . Because Checo isn't in sight !

Chappers 71 · 03-27-2021, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

I couldn't agree more ! It's a dream scenario ...

Yeah . As usual the Mercs were sandbagging ...And Ferrari was a surprise as well !

Tomorrow RB16B has to do it alone . Because Checo isn't in sight !

Ftfy my friend

///M Power-Belgium · 03-27-2021, 12:44 PM

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Ftfy my friend

Well my friend , that's just like the Mercedes drivers in their W12 spaceship in warp speed !

FTFY ? My friend .I really hope so ! Thank you !

Chappers 71 · 03-27-2021, 01:04 PM

Wipeout 2021

Killed by Death · 03-27-2021, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

My good friend . I am waiting..... ???

Ferrari

Looks like another wasted season!

But how bout GAS & Tsunoda

Or #MazeSpin

Good storylines shaping up so far

///M Power-Belgium · 03-27-2021, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Killed by Death

Ferrari

Looks like another wasted season!

But how bout GAS & Tsunoda

Or #MazeSpin

Good storylines shaping up so far

• Ferrari ?

Ferrari improved tremendously ! Actually I'm blown away .
Let's keep in mind : Last season Ferrari really s@cked ! This means Ferrari worked really hard during the winter stop !
LeCrash is tomorrow on P4 with a 1'29.678 !
Hope he can split the Mercs !!!

• GAS & Tsunoda ?

That's pretty simple . They run with a HONDA PU !
HONDA worked 24/7 really hard during the winter stop .
It was like a everything or nothing . For the moment It's a everything !
The HONDA PU is improved completely ,the gearbox , handling and balance as well .
That's what MAX showed us today with the pole .

BTW : Thank you mate !

SenorFunkyPants · 03-27-2021, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

That's pretty simple . They run with a HONDA PU !
HONDA worked 24/7 really hard during the winter stop .

So suddenly, after all these years, Honda find a load of horsepower enough to get past Mercedes? Yeah right.
Obviously they are cheating.

Killed by Death · 03-27-2021, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

• Ferrari ?

Ferrari improved tremendously ! Actually I'm blown away .
Let's keep in mind : Last season Ferrari really s@cked ! This means Ferrari worked really hard during the winter stop !
LeCrash is tomorrow on P4 with a 1'29.678 !
Hope he can split the Mercs !!!

• GAS & Tsunoda ?

That's pretty simple . They run with a HONDA PU !
HONDA worked 24/7 really hard during the winter stop .
It was like a everything or nothing . For the moment It's a everything !
The HONDA PU is improved completely ,the gearbox , handling and balance as well .
That's what MAX showed us today with the pole .

BTW : Thank you mate !

I won't be happy till Ferrari is winning and a constant threat again

Damn right they worked hard but that isn't enough for me.

"LeCrash"

I like MAX he's just not on my team

Killed by Death · 03-27-2021, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SenorFunkyPants

So suddenly, after all these years, Honda find a load of horsepower enough to get past Mercedes? Yeah right.
Obviously they are cheating.

They wouldn't let Ferrari cheat. I highly doubt the FIA would look the other way for hon-dah or Red Bull$hit.

MKSixer · 03-27-2021, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

My good friend . I am waiting..... ???

Great job by Max!!

Now let's see the race results!

View Poll Results: What year will VER win his first WDC in Formula One?
2021	17	17.89%
2022	4	4.21%
2023	15	15.79%
2024	1	1.05%
2025	0	0%
2026 or beyond	1	1.05%
Not happening until HAM retires...	57	60.00%
Voters: 95. You may not vote on this poll

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