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      05-14-2023, 12:49 PM   #2267
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Gentlemen tread lightly because Iím telling you Iíve seen this before on other threads andÖÖÖ..
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      05-14-2023, 01:03 PM   #2268
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^ It's not coming from us just an intelligently discussed fall out here of gub mints heavily involved in pushing something through that has not been handled democratically.
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^ It's not coming from us just an intelligently discussed fall out here of gub mints heavily involved in pushing something through that has not been handled democratically.
No brother thatís not what I meant. I meant that when another member comes on a thread and tells people that they are engaging in politics just about every time Iíve seen thisÖÖÖ.
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      05-14-2023, 02:11 PM   #2270
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^ Then it's up to us not to fall into any trap
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      05-14-2023, 06:18 PM   #2271
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Former 2020 M5 driver and loving my 2023 S Plaid. No regrets. It’s fun.
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      05-14-2023, 08:17 PM   #2272
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Nice!!!

Hopefully we'll see the final stages of this transition by 2028-2030.

Then final destination. 2035!!

Like tom brady in the hertz commercial..... EV??? Let's go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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      05-14-2023, 09:02 PM   #2273
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Dude... you said EVs are political. I said they are not, you just choose to make them political. Then you go off on a bunch of irrelevant rants. Discuss whatever you want. I don't give a shit. I just don't agree EVs are political. You just proved it by somehow managing to say a bunch of stuff about EVs that was not political...
Then go ahead and make your case why EV are not political.
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      05-14-2023, 10:29 PM   #2274
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Then go ahead and make your case why EV are not political.
You already did it for me in your last post. Go to any EV forum or group and they can discuss EVs all day long without getting involved in politics.

Anyways just like 99% of political "debates" we will just go round and round in circles repeating the same crap over and over so I'll just end it here.

Best of luck and here's to another 100 pages!
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      05-14-2023, 10:39 PM   #2275
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      05-15-2023, 12:07 AM   #2276
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You already did it for me in your last post. Go to any EV forum or group and they can discuss EVs all day long without getting involved in politics.

Anyways just like 99% of political "debates" we will just go round and round in circles repeating the same crap over and over so I'll just end it here.

Best of luck and here's to another 100 pages!
Well, just to be accurate this discussion is the other 1%.

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https://carbuzz.com/news/porsche-evs...-recharge-time

800 mile range and 15 min charge times.....


btw, people who think the government only pushes an EV agenda and only subsidieses them should do some simple google searches on how the government has been doing that for decades with the Big Three and the oil industry and the trillions of dollars spent on it

https://electrek.co/2016/11/25/tesla...-oil-industry/

https://e360.yale.edu/digest/fossil-...0-report-finds


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https://carbuzz.com/news/porsche-evs...-recharge-time

800 mile range and 15 min charge times.....


btw, people who think the government only pushes an EV agenda and only subsidieses them should do some simple google searches on how the government has been doing that for decades with the Big Three and the oil industry and the trillions of dollars spent on it

https://electrek.co/2016/11/25/tesla...-oil-industry/

https://e360.yale.edu/digest/fossil-...0-report-finds


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From the Yale piece:

"Explicit subsidies accounted for only 8 percent of the total. The remaining 92 percent were implicit subsidies, which took the form of tax breaks or, to a much larger degree, health and environmental damages that were not priced into the cost of fossil fuels, according to the analysis."

So, most all of the other implicit (i.e. implied) "subsidies" is unspecified (i.e. made up) non-business costs of environmental and health impacts.

I wonder what the trillions of implicit subsidies McDonalds Corp. and the fast food industry gets for selling its products.

Yale. Lol.

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People really think this isn’t going to work. That’s why these guys hate us ev people posting. Because we’re raining on their parade and they really think 2035 isn’t going to happen.

But actually they’re right, 2035 isn’t going to happen. It’s actually going to happen sooner than we think. Target time 2028-2030!!!!!!

Watch how this technology advances in the next 5-8 years.

Lmaoooooooooooooo man this is exciting!!!
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      05-15-2023, 07:31 AM   #2281
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Those shitty ass quotes mean nothing when everything you guys are arguing is going to happen regardless.

That’s like crying over spilled milk.

Lmaooooooo
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^^It's spilt the milk, spilled the beans
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You’re in the uk. We Americans do it the correct way. Like driving on the correct side of the car.

Only thing we’ll have in common is driving ev’s soon!!!

Lmaooooooo
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^ Not on your nelly, I guess you'll be the last to know that EV's will arguably die a slow and painful death when the novelty wears off.
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^ Not on your nelly, I guess you'll be the last to know that EV's will arguably die a slow and painful death when the novelty wears off.
I hope not. I definitely want to get another S Plaid when my lease is up.
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I hope not. I definitely want to get another S Plaid when my lease is up.
It's your choice now being free to have a new gas car also if you so choose which is fine of course, a long time yet to 2035 with an interesting showdown brewing by the year.
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^ Not on your nelly, I guess you'll be the last to know that EV's will arguably die a slow and painful death when the novelty wears off.
Lol right.

All your favorite cars downsized in engines. Certain models being discontinued. Everything is pointing towards an ev future.

But hey I guess it doesnít make sense to keep arguing in 2023.

I canít wait to laugh as each passes by as we move closer to this.

This discussion is going to be fun to revisit next summer. So we can monitor the progress.

Itís not looking good for you anti ev guys though lmaoooo
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Abraham Lincolns words being characterised as a 'shitty ass quote' is not to my liking. It will stand the test of time unlike tesla share price and batteries lmao.
Anyhow moving on to rational point making .. currently manufacturers are able to sell what they want and buy credits off tesla and the like. Come 2025(UK) they can'tdo so and will be Mandated to sell a proportionof theirstock as pure ev's.. so guess what more EV will have to be sold so their price falls and ice prices rise. If I was in the market for an ev and own an ice I'd hold out till then at least.
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