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Tesla is killing itself and gas prices are killing electrics thank god. Maybe in 30 yrs when they perfect batteries that don't weigh 500lbs and charge in 5 min. Till then it's as silly and undesirable as pee wee Herman.
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12-06-2015, 06:21 AM | #25 |
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I agree with the post above that says Tesla is a tech company, not an auto manufacturer. Tesla's value is not in its production capabilities but instead lies in it battery management software and the data it has accumulated with over 200,000 cars on the road. Think about having 100 laptop batteries running one computer (or one electric motor in this case). Knowing how long to drain/charge each battery cell to get the most power, range, and longevity is the secret sauce. Tesla's data is very valuable. The only car company that comes close to knowing as much about battery management is BMW, and that came form the Active E pilot program.
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12-07-2015, 07:50 AM | #26 | |
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As for "it isn't a car company but instead a tech company" only when it comes to valuations. It's primary function is to move people from one place to another and I don't see the "tech" of this car changing your life. At some point they will have an autonomous vehicle but many manufacturers are working on the same tech (and then there is Google). If I was Google I would pass on building a car and instead make the best autonomous system possible and sell it to car manufacturers. I see the margins on autonomous systems always being better than building cars.
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I really don't think this could be a Tesla killer.
1) It will be too expensive given it's being built by Porsche (and also very low volume); so the two cars won't be really in the same price range. 2) The reported charging rate is nothing but a gimmick. There are no Porsche chargers anywhere and to get to that charge rate you ll need a ridiculously high amp line. It's well beyond even Tesla's Supercharger. Will each Porsche dealership actually spend probably the millions needed for electric system upgrades to install a charger to serve such a low volume car? Doubt it. At home and at work, this car will charge at the same rate as all other EVs. 3) Porsche has poor driver assistance techs on all of its cars. It's nowhere near say Mercedes. Will this car have the same level of technology as a Model S? Will the car continuously upgrade its software on the go like Tesla? These are unknowns, but so far Porsche has never demonstrated strength in these matters. Basically this car will be of terrible value. It will cost more, have poorer tech, and have no charging network. The fact is a great deal of Tesla's value comes from its now fairly widespread supercharger network. However this car probably won't be out till 2019, so there's still a lot of time for change and improvements. |
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12-08-2015, 11:10 AM | #28 | |
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It seems there are a lot of people posting that aren't thinking of the big, long term picture. Yes, battery technology isn't where it needs to be but, in the future Tesla will have all the power when the market shifts away from ICE. |
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I like how it looks. However, being several years out I will hold off on any final verdict until I see numbers (price, performance, cost to run etc). Exciting stuff though.
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Yup. A overpriced, electric car that will debut years from now at a price that will far exceed any Tesla. Then being sold at a dealership, they'll mark it up even more because you know....market adjustment and elitism. Tesla killer? Not even close.
Is Porsche going to have free, I said free, charging station all across the US in case you want to drive from coast to coast? As of right now, I see nothing that screams Tesla Killer. |
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Guess who pays the bills for the specialty models? The Panamera and Cayenne purchased by the soccer moms and old people lol. Without those models providing the profit we probably wont see the GT4, GT3RS, etc.
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It also gave people who drive a 911/boxster/Cayman better options for another car from the porsche brand rather than having to buy a subpar product from some other manufacturer. It has played out extremely well to say the least and will continue with the mission e and hopefully they decide to make a small sedan too (which means big trouble for those in that segment). |
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Damn. Looks like a killer car.
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