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      11-14-2018, 04:47 AM   #177
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Because it is a sedan? I can understand that perspective...but it's not like the history of CSL is that long and well established. BMW hasn't made one since the E46, so I think they could (theoretically at least) take the trim level to whatever direction they want.

I wonder what the "take rate" is for the F80 CS vs. the F82 CS? Could be a decent data point in terms of the likelihood of the CSL in the G80 or G82 (or both).

M2 CSL on the other hand...now that would be something to get excited about, just because of the smaller size.
My thinking is that if the CSL follows in the footsteps of the M3GTS and M4GTS as primarily track focused cars as stated in the OP, having a roll cage and no rear seats in a 4-door sedan kind of defeats the purpose.

For me, the ultimate ///M would be in the veins of the E46 M3CSL or E90 M3 CRT, track beasts that retain (almost) full daily practicality. Right now, the M4cs is what comes the closest to that for me. IMO, the M3cs is slightly more biased towards comfort while the M4cs is slightly more biased towards perfromance (more weight savings).
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      11-15-2018, 12:26 PM   #178
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https://www.netcarshow.com/bmw/2018-m4_cs/

It's all about weight savings and power to weight or even hp per cylinder / weight.

So far 3655 is the number to beat ?
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It's all about weight savings and power to weight or even hp per cylinder / weight.

So far 3655 is the number to beat ?
How much weight do we think can be ‘comfortably’ shed to put it at a refinement level similar to CS/L’s previously
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It's all about weight savings and power to weight or even hp per cylinder / weight.

So far 3655 is the number to beat ?
How much weight do we think can be ‘comfortably’ shed to put it at a refinement level similar to CS/L’s previously
I wish for 2890 or lighter
but...I'm not being realistic to what they'll most likely build us.
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      11-15-2018, 06:12 PM   #182
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If they can shed 200 lbs of the regular car its going to be almost a miracle and anyways its going to look good to the general public so they will just stop there.

There are quite a few weight measures between regular m235/m240i and M2. Some parts cost more but they save money off some others for sure.
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      11-17-2018, 10:13 AM   #183
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Let's stay as committed as possible

Like this fellow hardcore member does ?

Obioban's 2005 IR/IR e46 M3 https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=941064
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It's all about weight savings and power to weight or even hp per cylinder / weight.

So far 3655 is the number to beat ?
How much weight do we think can be 'comfortably' shed to put it at a refinement level similar to CS/L's previously
I wish for 2890 or lighter
but...I'm not being realistic to what they'll most likely build us.
I would love that too
That would shock everyone. Lol
More realistic 3300lbs
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It's all about weight savings and power to weight or even hp per cylinder / weight.

So far 3655 is the number to beat ?
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CSL are most likely out of my price range. Will watch from the sidelines.
I think that's the key point everyone is missing too. We're complaining about buying a base M3 or a Competition car and the CSL is then released. People act like it's some $3k add on from the old ZCP packages.

Based on the GTS experience, we're looking at a car that's easily in the $140k range. Literally twice the price as a base M3.

At that price, I'll let the forums melt down over this, as there are so many more options at that price range and I'll take my money elsewhere.
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I'm hoping for i3 type curb weights and materials in unibody doors and dash.

Even the legendary E46 M3 CSL is over 3k lbs
At 3085lbs un modified unfueled and empty.

Consider a McClarens power and weight
and then power to weight ratio

Gotta go on a serious diet guys...
the original 1972 CSL "just" beats it out... by only a few pounds.
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Would love to see a lighter version of the M2 competition a csl version of it would be really interesting if that happens
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