Still want an EV?

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Everything is going to be fine. Ireland has plans to slaughter 200,000 cows in order to help save the planet.

We must be in the midst of some galactic simulation. Has to be.

There are 1.5B cows on the planet and 7.8B humans. Do the math.

[gonzo]

^
Pffftt. Math smath.
They're going to V Signal like a champ to the Green Church.

[SoCal_NSX]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

EV's now cost more to run than equivalent petrol vehicles over here with soaring by the minute electricity prices and on average EV's are TWICE as heavy as their fuel equivalents leading to more road wear and potholes.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/ca...l_desktop_home
On Daily Mail/This is Money/Electric Cars section.

lmao....

"Oil giants BP and Shell – which oversee the UK's biggest recharging networks – charge 79p and 85p per kWh respectively. In May 2022 you could recharge at a rate of 44.55p per kWh."

briliant ...the oil giants control the charging networks

[RM7]

Originally Posted by SoCal_NSX

lmao....

"Oil giants BP and Shell – which oversee the UK's biggest recharging networks – charge 79p and 85p per kWh respectively. In May 2022 you could recharge at a rate of 44.55p per kWh."

briliant ...the oil giants control the charging networks

Thats why they changed the name to “Beyond Petroleum”

[BGM-M3COMP]

BP is now called battery packs!!

Yes finally the puzzle is coming together!!!!

[chad86tsi]

Originally Posted by SoCal_NSX

lmao....

"Oil giants BP and Shell – which oversee the UK's biggest recharging networks – charge 79p and 85p per kWh respectively. In May 2022 you could recharge at a rate of 44.55p per kWh."

It's almost like those that predicted this outcome knew what they were talking about. Almost...

increased demand for services and scarcity = higher cost. Who knew

[shawnhayes]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

on average EV's are TWICE as heavy as their fuel equivalents leading to more road wear and potholes. .

On it's face, this claim is utterly ridiculous.

Model S plaid: Curb Weight : 4932 lbs / 2237 Kg

M5 Base: 2023 Base 4,345 lbs. V8

In a drag race, the Plaid will murder the M5. TWICE as heavy?

Maybe when you add up all the cars and compare the EV's to the econoshitboxes, maybe. But same external size and application? No way.

Shawn

[Murf the Surf]

Maybe not twice the weight but significantly heavier. This causes me concern when it comes to damage in crashes and increased stopping distance for heavier vehicles. Interesting article here.

https://www.greencarreports.com/news...en-road-safety

[M5Rick]

^ They changed the heading since I put it on but as you say EV's are significantly heavier than their fuel counterparts and you don't want one of these coming close to you coming the other way if you have a fuel car.

[G MONEY]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

^ They changed the heading since I put it on but as you say EV's are significantly heavier than their fuel counterparts and you don't want one of these coming close to you coming the other way if you have a fuel car.

What about dump trucks, buses, 18 wheelers Rv’s guess you are not worrying about them? Their brakes are dog shit as well. Rather get hit by a Tesla than any of those fuckers.

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by G MONEY

What about dump trucks, buses, 18 wheelers Rv’s guess you are not worrying about them? Their brakes are dog shit as well. Rather get hit by a Tesla than any of those fuckers.

A Tesla 18-Wheeler with FSD scares the shit outta me.

Just sayin'

[kyriian]

Originally Posted by G MONEY

What about dump trucks, buses, 18 wheelers Rv’s guess you are not worrying about them? Their brakes are dog shit as well. Rather get hit by a Tesla than any of those fuckers.

Not the same thing, yes they are heavy af as well, but the difference is, many of these behemoths on the road can't accelerate like a Tesla.
Also, many of these drivers (maybe not the RVs and caravans) don't have the host of 'self driving' tech either and require the driver to actually be paying attention. Tesla drivers on the other hand....

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

A Tesla 18-Wheeler with FSD scares the shit outta me.

Just sayin'

At least it won't be on meth and checking Facebook or texting.

[G MONEY]

Originally Posted by kyriian

Not the same thing, yes they are heavy af as well, but the difference is, many of these behemoths on the road can't accelerate like a Tesla.
Also, many of these drivers (maybe not the RVs and caravans) don't have the host of 'self driving' tech either and require the driver to actually be paying attention. Tesla drivers on the other hand....

I disagree a bit. Just cause you can get to 80-85 quick is 1 thing. Once these things are rolling at those speeds, you are fucked. These things are 15/20 times heavier than any Tesla. Just hope gotta hope you never get plowed into by one of them

[G MONEY]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

A Tesla 18-Wheeler with FSD scares the shit outta me.

Just sayin'

We will be dead before they hit the road

[zx10guy]

Originally Posted by G MONEY

What about dump trucks, buses, 18 wheelers Rv’s guess you are not worrying about them? Their brakes are dog shit as well. Rather get hit by a Tesla than any of those fuckers.

I don't pretend to be a trucker. I do know a good friend who has changed careers to be one and should ask him about how it is being a trucker. But what little I know, truckers have to have a CDL. CDLs have much more stringent licensing requirements than the joke of a licensing system for your standard driver's license. Getting a moving violation as a CDL holder is a big deal for them. Not only that, truckers are pulled over at various inspection points to have spot checks on their vehicles along with checking their log books on if they're conforming to the required rest periods per time driven.

None of those things are done with regular drivers.

[G MONEY]

Originally Posted by zx10guy

I don't pretend to be a trucker. I do know a good friend who has changed careers to be one and should ask him about how it is being a trucker. But what little I know, truckers have to have a CDL. CDLs have much more stringent licensing requirements than the joke of a licensing system for your standard driver's license. Getting a moving violation as a CDL holder is a big deal for them. Not only that, truckers are pulled over at various inspection points to have spot checks on their vehicles along with checking their log books on if they're conforming to the required rest periods per time driven.

None of those things are done with regular drivers.

I totally get all that. They are most likely better drivers than most. But they can’t control the fucking morons on the road who cause accidents!! I don’t care how many trainings and different licenses you have. if someone causes a situation where you can’t
Do anything about it, that 80,000 pound sledgehammer is going to rock some worlds

[RM7]

Originally Posted by G MONEY

I totally get all that. They are most likely better drivers than most. But they can’t control the fucking morons on the road who cause accidents!! I don’t care how many trainings and different licenses you have. if someone causes a situation where you can’t
Do anything about it, that 80,000 pound sledgehammer is going to rock some worlds

How do you feel about giant f-350 bro-dozers?

[G MONEY]

Originally Posted by RM7

How do you feel about giant f-350 bro-dozers?

Love them!! Roll coal all day everyday baby

[zx10guy]

Originally Posted by G MONEY

I totally get all that. They are most likely better drivers than most. But they can’t control the fucking morons on the road who cause accidents!! I don’t care how many trainings and different licenses you have. if someone causes a situation where you can’t
Do anything about it, that 80,000 pound sledgehammer is going to rock some worlds

Well, now you're moving the goal posts. You stated you were worried about these big trucks and vehicles causing major damage/injury implying that they're also being operated by the same number of idiots that drive passenger vehicles. If an idiot cuts off these big vehicles and gets smashed in the process, then it's karma. Yes, you'll probably bring up the wrecks and injuries caused by a semi smashing into a collision scene that they were unable to stop for. But compare those numbers to the numbers of crashes just involving passenger vehicles even focusing on the ones with major property damage/injury and you'll see those numbers don't come close.

One of the things truckers do to ensure they can stop in plenty of time is to create spacing with following distance. Again, it's not the fault of the CDL driver is someone jumps into the spacing they created.

[G MONEY]

Originally Posted by zx10guy

Well, now you're moving the goal posts. You stated you were worried about these big trucks and vehicles causing major damage/injury implying that they're also being operated by the same number of idiots that drive passenger vehicles. If an idiot cuts off these big vehicles and gets smashed in the process, then it's karma. Yes, you'll probably bring up the wrecks and injuries caused by a semi smashing into a collision scene that they were unable to stop for. But compare those numbers to the numbers of crashes just involving passenger vehicles even focusing on the ones with major property damage/injury and you'll see those numbers don't come close.

One of the things truckers do to ensure they can stop in plenty of time is to create spacing with following distance. Again, it's not the fault of the CDL driver is someone jumps into the spacing they created.

All I said was, if I had to pick to get in an accident with a Tesla or 18 wheeler, I pick Tesla every time. Lol. I was responding to someone saying they were worried about heavy Teslas crashing. I NEVER in my life have driven around worrying about any of this shit. Maybe it’s ignorance? I just drive. Shit happens. It’s a car. As long as no one is hurt, all good. I will say this though, Inhad street bikes my whole life. I miss having one all the time. But I’m never getting another one with how the roads are now. Every cocksucker is on the phone or watching videos. You see them swerving all over the lanes before you even catch up to them. People just have no fucks to give anymore

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by G MONEY

All I said was, if I had to pick to get in an accident with a Tesla or 18 wheeler, I pick Tesla every time. Lol. I was responding to someone saying they were worried about heavy Teslas crashing. I NEVER in my life have driven around worrying about any of this shit. Maybe it’s ignorance? I just drive. Shit happens. It’s a car. As long as no one is hurt, all good. I will say this though, Inhad street bikes my whole life. I miss having one all the time. But I’m never getting another one with how the roads are now. Every cocksucker is on the phone or watching videos. You see them swerving all over the lanes before you even catch up to them. People just have no fucks to give anymore

18-wheelers are slow and don't maneuver well. Kinda like dodging elephants. Teslas on the other hand are driven by tech geeks with no social skills and driving skills to match. Professional truck drivers earn a living by driving, so accidents really screw up their earning potential. I'll take a road full of semis when riding on my road bike rather than a road full of FSD impared Teslas. One thing successful motorcyclists learn, is how to stay out of blind spots.

While the Tesla TV screen depicts motorcycles, I'd rather the driver look out the windows and concentrate on driving, but that's just me.