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      02-04-2019, 11:55 PM   #45
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Damn, I haven't been in a Rolex AD in a couple years since I got my Submariner 14060m some years back. Just out of curiosity I'll have to pop in my nearest one and see what they have and don't have.
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i honestly thought that by now you'd see SS Rolex models in more places... i was wrong.... glad I got mine in December at msrp lol
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I've changed up what I wanted to get due to the pricing of the used double reds.

I traded in my red 1680 (prices have softened a bit) and will have a black face Daytona this month.

I've known my AD for over 10 years now and this will be my fifth new Rolex from him. He said that they had just finished the update that Rolex requested for their showroom and they're going to have to reconfigure the display cases to have less watches on display. Everything in the display is either two-tone, gold or platinum.
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Have the new watches hit the AD's yet?
If Rolex want's the kill the mark ups, then make more watches!!

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Have the new watches hit the AD's yet?
If Rolex want's the kill the mark ups, then make more watches!!

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they have.

the new Batman is going for 20k+ in the secondary market right now
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they have.

the new Batman is going for 20k+ in the secondary market right now


Rolex needs to make more watches or increase the price on these models!!
WOW. Just shocked.
Thanks for the heads up.
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I was able to pick this up about a month ago.
Like I've said, I have a very good relationship with my AD that's been built over a long time, plus other purchases that are at least the equivalent of what my five Rolex purchases are.
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Rolex needs to make more watches or increase the price on these models!!
WOW. Just shocked.
Thanks for the heads up.
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increasing the price wouldnt do anything other than piss off their customers.

the secondary market would correct for the msrp price increase.

I do agree they need to get rid of this artificial shortage and just push the watches out to the masses, but this is what they want. They want watches that not everyone has.
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increasing the price wouldnt do anything other than piss off their customers.

the secondary market would correct for the msrp price increase.

I do agree they need to get rid of this artificial shortage and just push the watches out to the masses, but this is what they want. They want watches that not everyone has.
I'm sure they do but they also don't want the crazy grey market.
It's like Porsche and the 911 GT3/RS. Porsche hates the mark-up, but doesn't build enough cars to come anywhere close to what the demand is.

Thanks for all the updates on what the market is on these watches. It's crazy!
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I'm sure they do but they also don't want the crazy grey market.
It's like Porsche and the 911 GT3/RS. Porsche hates the mark-up, but doesn't build enough cars to come anywhere close to what the demand is.

Thanks for all the updates on what the market is on these watches. It's crazy!
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Rolex doesnt want any grey market, which is why they are cracking down on ADs that sell to grey market dealers and flippers.
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Rolex doesnt want any grey market, which is why they are cracking down on ADs that sell to grey market dealers and flippers.
I see, but why would an AD sell to a grey market dealer when they have a long list of buyers? They must be buying above MSRP?
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I see, but why would an AD sell to a grey market dealer when they have a long list of buyers? They must be buying above MSRP?
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A couple reasons that ive seen.

The flipper/GM dealer will buy several of the none moving watches as well as the sought after models.

the AD or just the sales guy gets a kickback of profits

They will pay a premium to get the watch. ADs cant sell for over MSRP and its the quickest way to get their AD status pulled. However, you will see some selling accessories or other small items for a high cost. So you get the Sub C for 8750 (or whatever MSRP is now) and then a set of $5 earrings for $500.

Also, some ADs wont take waiting list names. So when they get one in, its first repeat customer that comes in gets it. The flippers buy enough to develop a good relationship with the AD and can get that preferential treatment.
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Anyone having a hard time finding a SS Rolex you might want to try the Rolex Forum. I’ve been a member there for about 9 years when I started shopping for my Submariner and they have reputable sellers who move a lot of pieces of used and new Rolexes.
https://www.rolexforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=9
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Anyone having a hard time finding a SS Rolex you might want to try the Rolex Forum. I’ve been a member there for about 9 years when I started shopping for my Submariner and they have reputable sellers who move a lot of pieces of used and new Rolexes.
https://www.rolexforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=9
https://www.watchrecon.com/ even better. it searches across all the forum and marketplaces.

finding SS Sport Models isnt the issue. You can find a handful of each model for sale at any given time online. Finding them at MSRP is the issue.
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^exactly. the rolex forum is just filled with a bunch of watches marked up at stupid high prices.
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https://www.watchrecon.com/ even better. it searches across all the forum and marketplaces.

finding SS Sport Models isnt the issue. You can find a handful of each model for sale at any given time online. Finding them at MSRP is the issue.
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^exactly. the rolex forum is just filled with a bunch of watches marked up at stupid high prices.
www.watchrecon.com is my go-to website for watch searches.

TRF has pricing that is similar to most other forums. Remember, it's only worth what someone is willing to pay, plus, you have to "buy the seller" so reputation and references are critical.

A few months ago, I was selling a BNIB white dial Daytona, when dealers on TRF had advertised similar watches for $21K. I undercut them and advertised for $19,500. I didn't get a single bite. I ended up selling it to a dealer in London for $17,500.
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Plenty of stock available. Either you are not an important client or doesn't know where to look.

Vintage GMTs are plentiful too but at premium prices I don't understand. Tons of those out there.
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Not everyone gets to be important to an AD.
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My buddy gets watches from an AD for 5-6 guys. I've bought 3 Panerai's and a 43mm Sea Dweller, and he got 4-5 GMT/Sub's for his other friends and he bought a Patek himself from the AD, and he still can't get a SS Daytona a year later... or a Batman for me.
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Plenty of stock available. Either you are not an important client or doesn't know where to look.

Vintage GMTs are plentiful too but at premium prices I don't understand. Tons of those out there.
if you can get them at MSRP...

Ill take 2 116500 white dial, 1 216710BLNR and 1 116500 black dial
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Plenty of stock available. Either you are not an important client or doesn't know where to look.

Vintage GMTs are plentiful too but at premium prices I don't understand. Tons of those out there.
Where are the plentiful? New SS Sport models is what we're referring to, not vintage GMTs that you can buy anywhere. GMTs, Subs, Daytona's - brand new 2019 models (yes, I want to be perfectly clear because you brought up vintage GMTs).

I'm calling BS on the new SS Sport models. I'm on TRF every day and there are endless threads of people looking for SS Sport models.

I am on the preferred list and got a SS Daytona about 9 weeks after I told my AD I wanted one. This took me 10 years to build this relationship with my AD along with plenty of money being spent.

I'd like to pick up another Hulk for a friend of mine - at MSRP, so show me the way and I'll purchase it on the spot.
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