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      03-03-2023, 08:33 PM   #1453
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You asked why people were complaining, I answered. Youíre such a child itís sad. Amazing that adults like you exist in the real world. Canít imagine you in real professional environment. Your social skills havenít advanced past middle school.
And you break down emotionally like a 16 year old girl.

I guess you're a child as well.
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And you break down emotionally like a 16 year old girl.

I guess you're a child as well.
Mate. Do us a favour and go on another thread !!
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      03-04-2023, 05:01 AM   #1455
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Found another clip of Germany's important decision on the 2035 ICE EU mandate.
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/n...s-2035-ice-ban
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      03-04-2023, 05:27 AM   #1456
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Mate. Do us a favour and go on another thread !!
Nah i'm good mate.

This is an open discussion. Not a protest that only whiners can participate in

Plus i like watching everyone break down and cry while they basically wait for the inevitable to happen anyway lmaoooo
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And you break down emotionally like a 16 year old girl.

I guess you're a child as well.
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      03-04-2023, 09:44 AM   #1458
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Every way I try to slice it. Running a 2023 Honda Accord LX to 100,000 miles and a Tesla Model 3 RWD (the slow one), the Honda still nets $4,200 less in total cost of ownership (purchase, fuel, maintenance). That includes $2,800 in maintenance* for the Honda. For $4,200 less cost, I'd pick the Honda with zero range anxiety and 5-minute road trip recharging.

*Engine Maintenace and oil $1,950
Driveline juices $250
Brakes $600 (assumes the Model 3 doesn't need brakes within 100,000 miles)
Assumes Model 3 requires $0 maintenance and both cars use tires at the same rate.
Tesla EV has same brakes, discs and pads and as heavier car with the batteries there is more wear on them so must require more maintenance and replacement and I heard servicing on them is expensive, need to discharge to work safely on them.

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Tesla EV has same brakes, discs and pads and as heavier car with the batteries there is more wear on them so must require more maintenance and replacement and I heard servicing on them is expensive, need to discharge to work safely on them.
You can probably get 100k on same brakes on Tesla if you use regen
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The delusion of the brainwashed EV fanboys is comical. Please keep going, it’s highly entertaining.
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The delusion of the brainwashed EV fanboys is comical. Please keep going, itís highly entertaining.
And the people constantly living in fear of EVs is equally entertaining.
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And the people constantly living in fear of EVs is equally entertaining.
Question. I would really appreciate an honest answer. Why is it that people from your way of thinking always use the word ďfearĒ or a derivative of that word when describing THE reason people have different or even opposite beliefs than yourselves?
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Question. I would really appreciate an honest answer. Why is it that people from your way of thinking always use the word “fear” or a derivative of that word when describing THE reason people have different or even opposite beliefs than yourselves?
The constant posts with the same subject? The constant desperate attempts to discredit them? Fear of the new/unknown is natural.
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The constant posts with the same subject? The constant desperate attempts to discredit them? Fear of the new/unknown is natural.
You did not answer my question. All you did was reaffirm what I said.
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Question. I would really appreciate an honest answer. Why is it that people from your way of thinking always use the word ďfearĒ or a derivative of that word when describing THE reason people have different or even opposite beliefs than yourselves?
Because terms like "legitimate concern" or "reasoned conclusion" Sound too much like a measured approach and/or rational thought process.

It's a derivative of gaslighting : to make the other persons approach appear flawed or emotion based, even though the facts used are factually true.

It would seem inferior if I said "I was fearful the results of my test", rather than "I expect the test results will prove I have cancer". Why use logic when emotion can be needlessly added to a debatable subject with truthful elements?
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      03-04-2023, 07:57 PM   #1467
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That's what I was thinking and why I added in brakes for the Accord.
As far as I know you might never need to replace brakes if you use regen......thats what I read. I drove EV6 and I remember regen worked pretty good. You can come to complete stop without even using brakes
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As far as I know you might never need to replace brakes if you use regen......thats what I read. I drove EV6 and I remember regen worked pretty good. You can come to complete stop without even using brakes
I got 150K on the brakes of my last Hybrid car, and the rears were still about 40% at that point.

Tires and shocks wear out faster though, carrying all that extra weigh with you for every mile you drive. Shocks were truly done by 80K, and tires were about 65% of the life span compared to similar vehicle it replaced tha ran the exact same tires.
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Since 2013, I've been trying to find the financial payoff that justifies switching to EV and lose some usability of the transportation device that best fits my use case.
And that's fine. It's never going to make sense to buy a new car unless you are going to downsize to a cheap econobox and even then probably not if it's new. That's just reality. But the other reality is that people are going to buy new cars, just to have something new, to get new tech, etc. No, it's not going to fit every case.

Speaking to the poster above, it's the constant posts about the lithium mines, turning a blind eye to all the destruction and effect of drilling oil out of the ground and ocean. I remember plain as day that someone was posting a green field saying that it was tar-sands. No, go look on google earth in Canada in Alberta. That post was blatantly misrepresenting the issue, just reposting some meme they found on facebook or something. The ones constantly saying they can't be used in the cold. Then there are the people that constantly claim that the EVs can't be "fun" vehicles...meanwhile certain ones consistently do well in AutoX and a few other races. Same thing with a lot of the clinging to hydrogen. It might be a source for certain things in the future, but it's wildly impractical for most personal/auto transportation. It's this and more, all the crazy attempts to try and discredit it. Hey, you got actual information, sure, post it, but it's clear that most are just re-posting some facebook meme or new story they read on a site with an agenda. I'm not afraid of it. I have two ICE cars that I like and an EV may work for one of my uses, but I'm in no hurry.

All the constant bashing gets tiring though. It's like certain people are desperate to try and disprove this technology that is here and now...and only going to get better.

Every week or every few days, someone is posting a new "the sky is falling!" post about EVs.
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The constant posts with the same subject? The constant desperate attempts to discredit them? Fear of the new/unknown is natural.

It is fear.

They post in these discussions because they know they will gather many with the same mindset and it helps give themselves false reassurance that everything will be A-OK!

That one morning they'll wake up, turn on the interwebzzzz and hope to see the news stating that ICE cars are back. EV's are being pushed back to 2050 or 2060 etc.

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It is fear.

They post in these discussions because they know they will gather many with the same mindset and it helps give themselves false reassurance that everything will be A-OK!

That one morning they'll wake up, turn on the interwebzzzz and hope to see the news stating that ICE cars are back. EV's are being pushed back to 2050 or 2060 etc.

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You just proved my point that this is aggravating you the most lmao

It’s ok bud. We’ll all be buddies when we’re driving awesome ev’s in the future.
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You just proved my point that this is aggravating you the most lmao

It’s ok bud. We’ll all be buddies when we’re driving awesome ev’s in the future.
And you just proved his point that you know you aggravate multiple members here knowingly and willingly, and that you do it for fun.
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