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      08-21-2023, 05:34 PM   #3675
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Lol. I wish I knew my friend. Like I posted before, I miss way more than I hit. I have a shit ton of Xpeng. Hopefully someday it takes off. I never really tell peeps what to and what not to buy. I don’t want to be the reason somebody loses their cash. I wish you luck on whatever you go after. Let me know if you have any
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I wish you well too..I've never invested in shares..with great risk can come great reward I guess.. xpeng hasn't really taken off yet.. so good luck to you.. if it does take off remember my good wishes
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      08-21-2023, 06:00 PM   #3676
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Here the local convenience stores have Tesla superchargers. I went in around 6:00am a couple weeks ago and the convenience store was empty except for staff. (today's students don't get up that early). There were 7 EV's on the Tesla superchargers and not a person to be found. My conclusion is the students leave the EV's on the chargers and get a ride to and from their apartments.
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      08-21-2023, 06:01 PM   #3677
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I wish you well too..I've never invested in shares..with great risk can come great reward I guess.. xpeng hasn't really taken off yet.. so good luck to you.. if it does take off remember my good wishes
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      08-21-2023, 06:02 PM   #3678
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Here the local convenience stores have Tesla superchargers. I went in around 6:00am a couple weeks ago and the convenience store was empty except for staff. (today's students don't get up that early). There were 7 EV's on the Tesla superchargers and not a person to be found. My conclusion is the students leave the EV's on the chargers and get a ride to and from their apartments.
One way to turn over those chargers is to have fees for non-charging time.
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      08-21-2023, 08:28 PM   #3679
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New business opportunity: Uber EV rides to and from charging stations?
It can be very expensive to save the planet
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      08-22-2023, 03:17 AM   #3680
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One way to turn over those chargers is to have fees for non-charging time.
That's about to be brought out over here for charger hoggers.
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Goeff explains what some EV buyers don't want to know.
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      08-22-2023, 06:43 AM   #3682
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Good article, nice chart but choosing a Ford F150 is stacking the deck in favor of EV's

Is it cheaper to refuel your EV battery or gas tank? We did the math in all 50 states.
The basic argument is that electricity prices are so high it has erased the advantage of recharging over refilling. This cuts to the heart of why many people buy EVs, according to the Pew Research Center: 70 percent of potential EV buyers report “saving money on gas” as among their top reasons.
The winner? The EV — barely. The savings were modest because of the substantial premium for using fast chargers, typically three to four times more expensive than charging at home.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/clima...e-vs-gasoline/

Adding pending EV road taxes.
Higher tire wear for EV's .
Higher depreciation for EV's and the answer is quite different.
And EVs generally have a higher sticker price than a comparable ICE car. The discounts are certainly helping reverse that. But battery life is a concern for me. I realize there are lots of old Priuses and older Model Ss out there though.
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      08-22-2023, 08:55 AM   #3683
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When you buy a used ICE you can do a compression test as part of a PPI and have a really good idea of the condition of the car.

When you buy a used EV do you know?
How many charge cycles?
What were the average battery discharge rates?
How many fast charges were used?
If the car was outdoor in hot weather?
If the Batteries were regularly charged beyond 80%?
If the Batteries were regularly discharged beyond 20%?
https://www.cars.com/articles/your-g...vation-446126/

I have never seen anything about internal resistance being checked in EV batteries. There is a lot of information on this in the radio controlled racing. IR is used to determine the life and quality of a LiPo battery

For those who read science:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...5248472100305X
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And now California, the EV mecca, just got flooded out... Waiting for drone footage of flaming Teslas.
When all these flood damaged California EV's get totaled, your insurance will go up again!
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When all these flood damaged California EV's get totaled, your insurance will go up again!
Isnt Cali going to break off at some point and float out in the Ocean?
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      08-22-2023, 12:53 PM   #3686
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Isnt Cali going to break off at some point and float out in the Ocean?
We can only hope.
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And now California, the EV mecca, just got flooded out...

Waiting for drone footage of flaming Teslas.
You read my mind
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When all these flood damaged California EV's get totaled, your insurance will go up again!
I read elsewhere they are already 30% up on average in some States.
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      08-24-2023, 07:37 AM   #3689
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I broke down and bought a Tesla Y. We have 5 cars and it just makes sense to have 1 EV amongst them as a hedge against high fuel prices. It take a little getting used to how it drives and does not handle like a 340i but boy it sure accelerates like one. As far as charging, it only makes sense to make sure you can charge at home at a high rate with 40amps or more to retain your sanity because waiting at stations for long periods of time. Stations are few and far between and many of the ports are often times broken or down. Its just frustrating.
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      08-24-2023, 07:44 AM   #3690
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"EV's definitely have a place. Especially urban areas, but charging seems to be an issue. What we need are choices. Electric, hybrid and gas. Forcing EV only would be a complete disaster"

Common sense from the orange one last night.
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What about the magic EV shrinking gas tank?

Range declines with battery ambient temp.

The gas tank of an EV shrinks in cold weather. No bueno in my view.
Managed to drive to work today and my magic EV shrinking "gas tank" was not a problem. I've got 78% charge left and I hope I don't get stranded on the way home.
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I read elsewhere they are already 30% up on average in some States.
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      08-24-2023, 10:20 AM   #3694
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I still can't get used to the annoying electric hum specially when in reverse.
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Managed to drive to work today and my magic EV shrinking "gas tank" was not a problem. I've got 78% charge left and I hope I don't get stranded on the way home.
While I do think the shrinking gas tank issue is slightly overblown as a skeptic

But unless you live on Bouvet Island (which is a balmy -10C today, which still is documented to not affect range dramatically yet), you'd be hard pressed to find many inhabited cities with a reasonable amount of population where this will be an issue today in late August
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While I do think the shrinking gas tank issue is slightly overblown as a skeptic

But unless you live on Bouvet Island (which is a balmy -10C today, which still is documented to not affect range dramatically yet), you'd be hard pressed to find many inhabited cities with a reasonable amount of population where this will be an issue today in late August
I kid you not. I literally just watched an entire Youtube on Bouvet Island yesterday. Norway lays claim to it despite the British getting there first. That's hilarious.

It's going to be 99 degrees here today. Plan to use cabin overheat protection then cool the car to 73 before I get into it.
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