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Let's run it off the 2023 Chevy Bolt which has a 65kW battery. Let's also assume you're at 10% charge, which means you have 6.5kW stored. 80% of 65 is 55.25kW, a differential of 48.75kW (let's just say 49). A crappy charger will be around 70% efficiency, so to charge that 49kW you will actually use 63.7kW. My average cost per kW is around $0.13, so multiply that by 63.7 and we get $8.28. If we went from 10% to 100% assuming the same 70% efficiency, it would be a 58.5kW differential which would actually consume 76kW and would cost $9.88. These are rough numbers. HOWEVER, something else to consider is when you actually charge. If it's at peak times, the kW rate is much higher, and if it's in the middle of the night (which is when we charged our EV) it's MUCH lower, sometimes half. We left our EV plugged in almost constantly, and in the car we just set a charge timer so it would only charge between 10pm and 7am. ALSO something to think about, range degredation due to cold weather. Our EV sat outside, and during the winter we lost ~30% total range just because the battery was cold. In our Bolt that was a reduction from 240 miles down to 170... While ICE vehicles lose some MPG during cold weather, it's nowhere near 30%. |
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Reading on with this is that EV's won't even become modern classics as all those batteries will-be-dead. EV baby dinasaurs not even reaching maturity There is a solution: don't buy them.
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https://www.euronews.com/green/2023/...e-pushing-back
Italian Minister for Transport Matteo Salvini has called the new law economic “suicide” for the EU. He said it was “ideological fundamentalism” that would benefit China and harm the European car industry. |
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Instead of UK, Brit drivers should put EU FU on their cars.
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“Tesla has transformed the market with brilliant electric cars. As others race to catch up, it’s an important signal to the market that the UK will no longer welcome dirty diesels and petrol cars from 2030".
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Off peak charging rates is a thing NOW
When EVs become a larger part of the market say 2035 If 50% of the new cars are EV, the electric companies will know they got you by the short hairs They can change their rates to maximize profit For a normal Household, they can track usage based on load Not charging a 100kwhr battery is one price Charge your EV and put load on the circuit, a different higher price Imagine paying more to charge your EV than paying for gas would be a reality soon in the future |
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I guess they will just have to fire up a few dozen more coal fired power plants to help charge all these mandatory electric vehicles.
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Here's another problem of many the gov. hasn't thought of. https://www.thesun.co.uk/motors/2152...electric-cars/ Last edited by M5Rick; 02-27-2023 at 04:56 AM.. |
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Why do I get the feeling that the whole EV thing just isn't ready for Prime Time. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business...-dover-calais/
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^ The well known term of 'sh*t show' is evident with our clueless leaders and the blinkers will have to come down soon.
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But apparently its coming in 2035 and nothing can be done about it, be a part of it or.... something
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I get government can regulate things, but something as big as transportation and individual needs makes it seem that supply and demand will be an issue. Government can force manufacturers to build EV's but it's difficult to force people to buy them. I guess I'm saying that there is a certain percentage of the population who don't care what they drive and they will buy what's available but there is also a significant group that are likely to not want to buy an EV. If car manufactures can't sell them what happens then?
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There really is no debate in Canada, once governments let PHEV's in under the legislation them there's no issue, the regulations will be met. It really is that simple.
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