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2022 - Mary Barra...we will catch and pass Tesla by 2025.
Today - Mary Barra in earnings call...GM plans to produce 400,000 EVs over the course of 2022, 2023, and the first half of 2024. Meanwhile, Tesla 2022 total one year production - 1.37 million. Also Bolt production announced to be ending. 20,670 EVs delivered in 2023 Q1. 19,700 of those were Bolts. 2 Hummers and 968 Lyriqs delivered. GM Ultium platform EV scaling is embarrassing. If this keeps up, Mary Barra won't last at GM. |
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This rush to EVs is nothing but a political play due to lobbyists and creating a whole new industry to make lots of money. EVs definitely have a purpose and should be a vital segment like “Convertible” but they should not be forced on people. Free market is the only way, whenever governments intervene then bad things happen. |
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The problem with the arguments you guys are having and i know you're trying your best to come up with any scenario to give you guys false reassurance that this transition will never work, is that you're judging results of TODAY. EVERY SINGLE thing improves as each day passes. You can't get anything new because the day you get something, the next day there's an improvement of that version already happening. This is with anything. Cars, phones, tv's, housing, everything. For some odd reason, you guys are scared of this so called 2035 ban that you must think, when we all say, "HAPPY NEW YEAR!!! It's 2035!!" that poof, magically all ICE cars disappear from the streets, any ICE cars at dealerships disappear and whatever ICE cars you have at your house are taken away by the feds. That won't happen. If this ban is set in stone in 2035, you will have a gigantic used market to drool over. Maybe by then all your favorite cars will be easily attainable because gas cars will be a thing of the past as EV's will have GREATLY improved by then, in terms of charging times, weight, performance and overall tech, that i bet almost everyone who have posted in this thread, would have an electric car. Maybe even more than 1. I love EV and i love gas. If the ban is set in stone in 2035, i already have my forever ICE car(s) that i'll keep until i'm old and/or too bored to want to keep and i'll just drive my EV's until i die. Let's go elon!
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If only a comprehensive viable charging solution was going to come in 2035 too. They will call it the "un-inventium solution", because it's about to be invented, any day now... Build it and they will come. Well, good luck on that guys. Last edited by chad86tsi; 04-25-2023 at 06:19 PM.. |
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Are we just going to buy all of them new EVs and a dedicated street charger. How about all the NYCHA / Section 8 buildings. |
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Could you imagine Florida during a hurricane evacuation
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100%. As I keep saying, I will probably end up with at least one electric vehicle in my six car fleet at some point. But I assure you of this, during the hurricane evacuation that will not be my go to vehicle for obvious reasons.
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I've been following EV since before the GM EV1. EV has been and still is just a promise. It WILL be better, it WILL be faster, it WILL provide range, it WILL recharge in 5 minutes. I've been reading the same shit for 20 years; "it will come". People buy on the here and now, not on promises. If EV was ready, then there would be no proposed 2035 ICE ban, there'd be no tax rebates, there'd be no proposed EPA emissions regulations that essentially abolish ICE. A new battery technology is on the horizon we've been told over and over. When it gets here, it's back to the top of the cost curve. The lithium ion tech has bottomed out on the cost curve and the average EV is $60K. It's great to be optimistic, but tech doesn't always get better and cheaper. I've not found one resource that walks through the engineering and cost curves that show EV get cheaper and offers as good or better performance than ICE (cost, recharge speed and range). It's just a promise, we have to believe, the Planet is at stake. Please. Lol. |
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I can't even imagine Florida. Why don't they dig it up and build it smaller and higher?
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lol, yeah things are getting better everyday! Wages are going up! Cost of living is going down! There’s an increasing percentage of younger home owners over previous generations! Demographics aren’t changing at all! Infrastructure and city layout is ideal! People act like the current state of the tech is the only thing holding back EVs from taking over. It is such a multilayered situation, it’s practically impossible to consider all factors. Yet it’s seemingly the solution to all our problems! How asinine can we be?
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Why would we do that? Florida is fine. Best state in the union. I’ll take our freedom over any other state and what they have any day of the week. Cracks me up when my colleagues from New Jersey roll their eyes as Florida as tens of thousands of their fellow citizens evacuate their state to Florida every month seeking asylum.
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^ Few years ago we went to Miami (at the time when Houston flooded) and were surprised at the amount of stayers in our hotel from NY and NJ, not that surprised as when we waited for our connecting flight in Newark it was freezing there.
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Oh yes. All of south east Florida (not Miami) are refugees from New York, New Jersey and Pennsylvania. Mostly Philadelphia. Not surprisingly it’s the worst run part of the state. The rest of us tolerate them though.
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