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...Meanwhile, Lucid Air Sapphire a 5300 lbs EV just set a new C&D 2024 Lightning Lap EV record and became the fastest four-door tested, only got beat by track monsters 911 GT3 Manthey Racing and 911 GT3 RS. Interesting times... Your move Tesla Plaid...
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It's just the operating cost on the i4 is several times (5x) less. Even if my electricity rates were to double the operating cost on the i4 would still be far less. I don't see electricity rates going up a lot without gas prices also going up. There are no oil changes and certainly less wear on the brakes in the i4 which are the main wear items in the X4. I guess the only place where the i4 is worse is that I burn through tires faster. But that's going to happen when you have double the torque off the line. The major issue with the i4 is that the public charging (away from home) infrastructure sucks. It doesn't help that the current technology forces long waits to "refuel" the electric car. Adding 200 miles of range to a gas car takes a couple minutes. Adding 200 miles of range using DC Fast-Charge to today's electric vehicles can take anywhere from 20 to 40+ minutes not counting the wait time for public chargers. The wait time can be significant due to the scarcity of public chargers and the long "refuel" times. So I wouldn't recommend a full electric vehicle as someone's only vehicle. Plug-in hybrid is much more reasonable in the current state of the world. Luckily I'm in a position where have the luxury of having an extra vehicle primarily for in-town use. Which, of course, is about 85+% of my driving time. While in-town I can drive for much less cost and recharge every night at home. Use the gas car for road trips. |
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02-23-2024, 11:08 AM | #6759 | |
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Don't convince the internet how much you are 'saving' buying an EV and then try to convince others that it suits a crowd of random internet stranger's particular needs... EV owners are hilarious Love your EV? Good, go enjoy it and maybe don't try to covince others how much money you are saving when we all know fuel or electricity cost is only a part of the entire cost of ownership of a vehicle, that does include depreciation Oh, maybe Onterrible is a little different, but I have not ONCE seen my electricity cost come down, but I can always find a cheaper pump elsewhere.
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02-23-2024, 12:51 PM | #6763 | |
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02-23-2024, 03:32 PM | #6765 |
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The flood of Cheap China EV's will not be good for consumers, European auto manufactures or local fire departments.
It will be very interesting how Mercedes, BMW, Volkswagen Group and Citroen deal with this. Never thought I would be appreciative of the UAW in America but at least they kept the Dems from unleashing cheap China EV's directly on us for the time being. |
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EVs aren’t about solving a problem (climate change is fake. Governments engage in climate engineering with weather modifications programs like praying aluminum in the air, using high frequency radio waves, and direct energy weapons).
There is no problem to solve, just problems they created and to provide a solution. The solution to 9/11 was to allow the government to spy on American citizens and track their travel despite the hijackers not being American. So the whole point of getting people on a grid is to drastically raise costs and make them ration electricity. The idea is to have you completely dependent on them for everything. You and I know this because you can’t save the planet by buying more junk. |
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Teslas and other eV's feature a lot in very slow sellers from dealers. Main concerns from buyers are depreciation and if leasing the poor deals if you want to keep the vehicle.
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02-24-2024, 06:50 AM | #6771 |
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Just to clarify. You can't buy out a Tesla from a new lease per the contract. Just posting in case anyone wonders.
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02-24-2024, 06:56 AM | #6773 |
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. . . <------It's well known I have more than one car, but I've never claimed I bought one of them because it saved me money. In truth it's the complete opposite.
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02-24-2024, 07:05 AM | #6774 |
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Okay, that's not clear (not a flame)... Are you saying the terms of the lease state the lessee cannot buy the Tesla at the end of the lease term, meaning you have to give the car back at the end of the lease? Akin to a "forced" close-end lease?
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Yes. But most leases for automobiles allow for an option to buy the vehicle at the end of the lease term.
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Yes. When you lease from Tesla (and I am doing so) you do not have the option to buy the car at the end of the lease. You have to give the car back. This is standard for Tesla.
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