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02-11-2016, 07:02 AM | #24 |
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1. Why did you choose BMW over Audi?
I work for a Software company that looks after VW Group, shocking how every part is made for a Skoda, Seat, VW and Audi, so Audi in my opinion way overpriced, they use timing belt not a chain, front wheel cars are cheaper to make and yet Audis are priced like BM or MERC. The I-drive system in Audis is a complete joke from user point of view, the engineering part and the Quattro is all Marketing, in comparison to X drive system. Audi in this part of the world is famous for having concrete setup for suspension to overcome the imbalance on weight, the front is simply too heavy. As another example of how VW group is so into saving cash, for us driving on the right hand side of the car even on 911's as well as Audis the manual hand breaks are left on the same position as left hand cars, so on the passenger side for us, shocking it is also the case for the Audi R8, BMW stopped this in the 80s after the e30. So lack of details from Audi for sure. 2. Name 2 features you wish your current car had at the time of purchase. HUD and APP option 6NR 3. Overall do you like your experience with your dealer? Good so fare 4. What are you thinking will be your next car purchase? Looking into Jags for a change |
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02-11-2016, 08:09 AM | #26 |
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1. Audi does not offer a car in the segment which I was interested in. And if they had, it would have been an old model that had been on the market for years rather than a fresh entry like the BMW I purchased.
2. 500hp+, the ability to order it without the navigation system (which I've still never used once) 3. Yes 4. The best high performance sport sedan available that I can afford. As always, there is a high probability that will be whatever BMW has on offer, but I do try to make an objective decision based on what is available. |
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But having the engine in the front means that one should look for a short, light and low engine. The subaru boxer is excellent for that. An inline 5, V8 or even V10 (as audi has used) are not suitable at all. Inline engines are long and tall, and v8 and v10's are very heavy. A v6 may be one of the most suitable engines after a boxer. A fwd audi with longitudinal engine makes no sense at all. None of the advantages and all of the disadvantages. So for the bigger audi's the only ones that make sense from a technical/handling pov are quattro v6's (either na or fi) My answers: 1. Why did you choose BMW over Audi? I wanted a roadster (I chose the e85 Z4). The TT roadster is heavy, has a weak chassis (designed as coupe originally, so it needed a lot of extra steel strenghtening) and is essentially a golf platform. It is no match handling/performance wise for the z4. 2. Name 2 features you wish your current car had at the time of purchase. LSD, air scarf (like mercedes has) 3. Overall do you like your experience with your dealer? good, I bought it at a german dealer (used) and he assisted in exporting the car etc. 4. What are you thinking will be your next car purchase? Something more exotic. Maybe a used lambo or a TVR or something like that.
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02-11-2016, 08:16 AM | #28 |
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1. Didn't have an equivalent engine, looks much better, don't like Audi steering (mum has an a4)
2. CIC and LSD would be nice! 3. Go to one of the best independents in the UK. Busy and pricey but can't fault the work 4. Probably something crap while I get a house sorted. |
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02-11-2016, 08:27 AM | #29 |
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audi s6 was inconsideration but price too high, BMW fan boy
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No manual, and no RS4 (S4 was already a dated platform too in late '14).
Ventilated seats (I got spoiled in my previous 650 GC), and built in controls to enable/disable active sound AND rev matching in any mode. I had a good experience at Orange County NY BMW, but they didn't know THAT much about ED and I had to coach them through most of the process even when it was my first time doing it too. Honestly, no plans right now. . . I have 2 years left on my F80. . . MAYBE AWD m5 if it really comes out around the end of that time period??
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may i stir up some shit? i don't have either anymore BUT if i was in the market for an SUV i would likely take an SQ5 over an X5. it's the first time in a decade that i thought anything by audi was better than bmw. r8 not included.
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SQ5 doesn't compete with X5. It's in the same class as the X3. Audi has a SQ5, but BMW has no X3 M. BMW has a X5 M, but Audi has no SQ7. The SQ5 is really nice, but it needs to come with an option for a sport suspension though. It's too high off the ground.
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No, it depends on the engine.
However there is no BMW with a timing belt. Quote:
And dont post those audi/bmw youtube video with the ramp with the rollers. Maybe a certain car will perform better on that, but there are no roads with rollers. Also if the driver knows anything about all terrain driving, those problems are very easily solvable. Most of those tests are very carefully planned to get a specific result. ESP on/off, strange tyre pressures and such tricks are used to highlight one or the other car. I certainly dont think the Q3 haldex system is superior. The original torsen quattro system is nice. But Audi is slowly and silently ditching the torson diffs in their quattro systems, probably due to cost.
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Bah, those old turds have been replaced everywhere but here. The B9's won't have manuals.
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02-11-2016, 10:39 AM | #41 |
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1. Why did you choose BMW over Audi? M3. I prefer all Audi sedans. BMW makes the better sport"y" car. Audi makes better luxury cars.
2. Name 2 features you wish your current car had at the time of purchase. HUD, coilovers. 3. Overall do you like your experience with your dealer? Yes. 4. What are you thinking will be your next car purchase? Porsche Macan - wife. |
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1. Timeless Design (inside and out) and Performance Focused 2. Sport Exhaust (6 series) and Alcantara interior trim (X5M) 3. BMW dealers allow haggling on price, Audi doesn't (at least in KC) 4. 991 or next gen Panamera or used 2017 Alpine B7
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Regarding Quattro vs XDrive, no I'm not talking about the Youtube roller video. I thought BMW beat Audi in that fake test anyways. Yes, I'm talking about the torsen-based quattro. I mis-spoke when I lumped the Q3 into the discussion. It's still a new car in the US and I'm not familiar with it. In real world driving Quattro just feels more natural and planted in the snow. It's a full time active AWD system. XDrive just feels unnatural with the computer making reactive corrections to your driving. Audi deliberately invented quattro to gain an advantage in rallycross so it's considered a performance AWD system, whereas BMW only came out with XDrive after its customers started demanding AWD because all of its competitors offered it. I forget the time period, maybe around the year 2000 when AWD became very popular on SUVs in cold-climate regions of the US and BMW was lagging behind. |
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