Biker Gang and Land Rover Incident in NYC

[jwaggen]

Really interesting article (I think) at cnn:
http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/03/opinio...otorbike-bias/

[KingOfJericho]

Originally Posted by sanf

Whatever happens at the end. There will probably a riot in NYC one way or the other....

This is not controversial enough.

[kits135i]

Originally Posted by jwaggen

Really interesting article (I think) at cnn:
http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/03/opinio...otorbike-bias/

Not interesting at all. It came off to me as some asshat trying to defend more asshats. Those bikers knew what they were doing and at least one got what he deserved. Then they tried to kill the guy for trying to keep his family safe.

[Z K]

It's been mentioned in many articles that the bikers were out to start problems. Some of the commenters on the news reports also mentioned that large groups of bikers will sometimes provoke people and start problems so they can harrass people.

One commenter said:

As a trucker that would deliver in north jersey and New York I am familiar with these groups. I can hopefully clarify a few things. First the initial "accident" is part of a game they play. They ride in a huge group and will operate together to slow down traffic. Next they pick out high end vehicles targeting people with families in them, the targets will usually be white or Asian. Then one of the riders will do a "brake check" and stop suddenly in front of the target vehicle causing a minor bump. In some cases they will just roll back into their target vehicle. They will then mob the vehicle demanding money and or begin attacking the person inside. It is their practice to also slash the tires to prevent the vehicle from escaping. Truckers are well aware of them and are advised not to stop. You can clearly see in the video how they are well practiced in this style of attack. The police in NY have backed off them after an officer ran one down using his vehicle a few months back. The video was all over the net so I advise you to check it out. These "bikers" ride dirt bikes and sport bikes very few of which are street legal and even fewer have plates. They run red lights, stop signs, and have no regard for the law. If you are ever in this situation do not stop, immediately call the police and do whatever you have to to keep them from boxing you in. NEVER leave the scene of an accident if you are not under direct threat!!! Only run if you have no other choice, and again immediately call the police. This is not rare by any means, the only reason this incident got any attention is because of the helmet cam video being posted on the net. If you see anyone in this situation, call the police. Make no mistake confusing these punks with true bikers. You will rarely if ever see a member of these gangs on a Harley. A final note, always be aware of motorcycles and share the road. Check your mirrors and don't ride anyone's bumper, motorcycles have a much smaller profile then a car and are harder to see.

I totally agree with this.

Just driving around in my own car I've had random people brake check me in the middle of the road... usually in questionable neighborhoods. They are looking for you to tap them and then they can scam you for money or your insurance. A friend of mine had someone at a stop sign reverse into her car and then come out and claim she rear-ended them.

All I can say is be careful out there! Being on this forum and driving a "expensive" car means people think you have money and want to go after you.

[Bamaben]

Originally Posted by Mr Tonka

^^ that's true. Also interesting question is what the wife of the injured biker thinks should have been the RR's course of action in that situation..... say, if her and her kid were in the car.

Exactly!

[edirtaynine]

look at these two fucknuts talking:

fuck both of them bitches. they can bring their stuntin asses to LA and see how they get handled out here. fuck the courts, the system, the cops, the attorneys. theyre all useless pieces of shits.

[kevinbahnz]

Originally Posted by edirtaynine

look at these two fucknuts talking:

fuck both of them bitches. they can bring their stuntin asses to LA and see how they get handled out here. fuck the courts, the system, the cops, the attorneys. theyre all useless pieces of shits.

"2 minutes prior to that , he should've been under the RR" Your boyz tried to open his door and drag him out the kaah. You shouldn't be paahked in the middle of the road like that. .

[KwlAznKid]

Originally Posted by edirtaynine

look at these two fucknuts talking:

fuck both of them bitches. they can bring their stuntin asses to LA and see how they get handled out here. fuck the courts, the system, the cops, the attorneys. theyre all useless pieces of shits.

FUCKINg scums, honestly if we had it my way our society should just get rid of these people

[Luong]

Edwin E. Mieses, 26, of 17 Bernard Ave., Nov. 28, charged with operating a motor vehicle after license was revoked, illegal possession of a Class D narcotic, operating a motor vehicle with defective equipment and on five outstanding warrants;
Arrested Again in May, Since 1999, he has been ticketed by police 16 times, in Lawrence, Methuen, Roxbury, Andover, and New Hampshire, according to registry records.
In June, the Registry notified the National Driver Register that Mieses was a habitual traffic offender whose right to drive in Massachusetts was revoked until 2017, records show

[kevinbahnz]

If the guy bashing the RRs window at the end of the video is so innocent why is he hiding.? I'm on CNN(tv)right now and Alex lien's wife is going to make a statement any minute now.

[turbolag]

Originally Posted by kevinbahnz

If the guy bashing the RRs window at the end of the video is so innocent why is he hiding.? I'm on CNN(tv)right now and Alex lien's wife is going to make a statement any minute now.

What was the statement?

I wonder if this'll happen to me if I go to NYC in my M3. Better get a X5 xLine

[Takeshi]

There were over 200 people calling 911 about these douchebags and the NYPD didn't show up until somebody got stabbed? wtf?

I bet if Lien was a cop putting out a 10-13, a half dozen squad cars would show up in 30 seconds.

[kevinbahnz]

Originally Posted by turbolag

What was the statement?

I wonder if this'll happen to me if I go to NYC in my M3. Better get a X5 xLine

Damm CNN lied to me again. she didnt come on to make a statement. They just read segments of her written statement. "Her Husband feared for their lives" and that she thanks the bystanders that intervened and saved her husbands life.

[Sam335ix]

Well as of today I had to switch to a new cc holster with extra mag. 26 shots, enough to scare the rest, then again the +xp rating and head shot should be epic :-)

Why the f anyone would take these scums side I don't know.

[Bamaben]

They should charge the brake checking biker with attempted murder of the guy that got ran over.
Reason?:
if you commit a felony like robbing someone and the victim shoots and kills someone else in the process (like an innocent bystander) then YOU will be the one facing murder charges. Look it up or watch a few episodes of First 48.

Same principle

[nmehta211]

Originally Posted by turbolag

What was the statement?

I wonder if this'll happen to me if I go to NYC in my M3. Better get a X5 xLine

Exactly. What would the M3 do in this situation--

would runflats work against slashes?

[Mr Tonka]

Originally Posted by nmehta211

Exactly. What would the M3 do in this situation--

would runflats work against slashes?

You ever seen a train with a cow catcher push livestock off the track....

[ddk632]

For some reason I find it easier to believe that the RR driver feared for his and his families lives, rather than the scumbag who tried to open the RR door "to take the keys so he couldn't hit anyone else" (Yes the "for some reason" part is sarcasm just for clarity)

If the RR driver would have been removed from his vehicle in the middle of the highway, he for sure, and possibly his wife, would have been murder victims that day. He saved his family by getting the F out of there and even though he got beat up, it was apparently in a location where others were able to intervene.

There are times when cars or SUVs mess with bikers, try to run them off the road, etc., unprovoked. I've seen it and it's happened to me on my bike.

This situation is not one such time. These bags of feces riding bikes (can't even call them bikers or riders, to give the rest of us the bad name) were not victims of road rage. They wanted to show who owns the road and had a casualty in the process.

Seeing the video of them riding through red lights, on sidewalks, stopping all traffic, is like a scene from a surreal movie where government has shutdown and anarchy has ensued.

I have participated in large group bike nights back in Cali where hundreds of bikes would ride through LA from the valley, down to Hollywood (hope they still do) and it was nothing like this. Was every law followed? Probably not. But in the case of this group, I can only describe it as motorcycle anarchy.

The worst part of it is that no matter what anyone says, when the general public thinks of motorcyclists, the image of these fecktards comes first and foremost before any other. Hope the RR driver recovers and that his young kid (infant or toddler according to various reports) had no idea what went on and won't be traumatized from the event.

[P1]

Do these guys have jobs? They are all old as f*ck. Should they not be helping their wives with cooking dinner or their kids with their homework?

[Maestro]

At this point, I am thinking the police are not arresting these guys yet for a reason beyond they do not think they have a case. At this point they want to identify all that were involved and if the idiots think the police are not coming after them they might come out of hiding. The police have time on their side here to file charges but its more important to identify who the people are, then put the case together and go after them as whole.

These idiot think by making up stories of why they did what they did will get them off they have another thing coming.

As one person already said there are laws on the book to allow them to file charges against all those involved for all RR guys injuries and the guy who was run over. The mere fact their illegal activities caused others to be hurt makes them responsible.

We all know as part of any group or club or similar things there are aways a few trouble makers who make the rest look bad. I seen plenty of motorcycle rides with 100's of rides going down the road as well as car clubs and never seen issue. This group is not those people, as everyone has seen and hear this group is out to cause problems, their bikes are illegal and they take over the road as if they were there own. This is the net result of their activities and these are not youthful kids who have no clue, these are older people who should know better.

[Billup]

Originally Posted by P1et

Do these guys have jobs? They are all old as f*ck. Should they not be helping their wives with cooking dinner or their kids with their homework?

They ride in huge groups of dudes because they can't find women dumb enough to be with them, I hear their motto is "bros before hoes".

Its a pretty severe case of bromance these groups suffer from. Truly an epidemic.

[Templar]

Originally Posted by edirtaynine

fuck both of them bitches. they can bring their stuntin asses to LA and see how they get handled out here. fuck the courts, the system, the cops, the attorneys. theyre all useless pieces of shits.

Pieces of shit, every last one of them. Like I said, the one saying "it was payback" is lucky it wasn't me in that Range Rover. He wouldn't be around to give that interview today...