M Sport package considered an "M" car?

DanG · 11-18-2021, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Onesie

Because that helped your ego?

No. Just was not worth correcting them. Had an E46 M3 before the M235i and now own an M2.

Tyga11 · 11-18-2021, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Onesie

Did telling us this help your ego?

Stop projecting

DanG · 11-18-2021, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Onesie

Did telling us this help your ego?

Boy are you way off. Just showing that I know what a real M car is.

DenverSteve · 11-18-2021, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DanG

I had an M235i. Lots of people called it an M2. I never bothered to correct them.

No reason to correct people who are incorrect (even slightly) regarding an insignificant matter. They were just showing you they were aware you had a BMW. Not knowing exactly which BMW you had was unimportant to the conversation.

Tyga11 · 11-18-2021, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DenverSteve

No reason to correct people who are incorrect (even slightly) regarding an insignificant matter. They were just showing you they were aware you had a BMW. Not knowing exactly which BMW you had was unimportant to the conversation.

Yeah, agreed. 99% of the population can't distinguish the M models anyway so there's no point in correcting people.

Gossypiboma · 11-18-2021, 09:44 PM

You know what you have. Move on.

TAZ007 · 11-19-2021, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Gossypiboma

You know what you have. Move on.

And so do the rest of us.

3002 tii · 11-22-2021, 10:23 AM

Why does this same question always get asked?

1. If it were the same, it would be listed under the M car lineup but it is NOT.
2. Who cares what others think? Just don’t go adding extra badges. Why? See #1.
3. Get the car you like and can reasonably afford.

For a non-track car I never felt the need to pay up for the extras power, forged rims, big brakes or limited slip. But I do prefer the looks of the M sport trim over standard which is why I usually opt for that package. And yes for track, having M car is great because I’d spend more trying to retrofit many of those go fast parts or find creative ways to stuff wide rubbers.

3002 tii · 11-22-2021, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by avantegardestyle

I dont like these new cars with too much angles, ridges, fake vents etc that does really nothing and will not age well
All the M cards up to the E9x were elegant cars. the only exception being the E60 M5, which I actually like aesthetically even with the weird headlights

the Last two M3's are just terrible looking

I think I’m in minority camp but I think e60 m5 is the best looking generation (next would be e34). Just a shame the SMG sucks big time and the swap is not as easy as the e46, else I’d own one myself. But finding low mileage 6MT with black interior is so tough.

workerONE · 11-24-2021, 01:15 AM

I saw a 440i with the m performance pack today. I had to do a double take. It has an m on the rear of the car. I'm fine with the cars that actually have an m in the model name, we can debate whether they're m cars. But the m performance pack with an m badge is not right.

IcewaterPete · 11-24-2021, 01:45 PM

Of course a M Sport is not even close to being a real M car.

Just had to add another useless affirmation to see how many pages we can stretch this topic to!!

LOW4LYF · 11-24-2021, 06:17 PM

https://g80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1877783

This will answer the question finally

Welcome to NBA Jam · 11-25-2021, 09:02 AM

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https://g80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1877783

This will answer the question finally

These will definitely be collectors cars.

GT_Juls · 11-25-2021, 01:44 PM

One point is that the 1M and OG M2 have the N54 and N55 respectively but they dont have "true" S type engines. Is it just the badge and price tag? Even the new M240xi has a diff now and the M3 powerdome. I dont like up badging but bmw continues to provide more and more //M division exclusive parts to m-lite versions.

wtwo3 · 11-25-2021, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jhan315

One point is that the 1M and OG M2 have the N54 and N55 respectively but they dont have "true" S type engines. Is it just the badge and price tag? Even the new M240xi has a diff now and the M3 powerdome. I dont like up badging but bmw continues to provide more and more //M division exclusive parts to m-lite versions.

That diff can be optioned on a 230i/330i as well.

An m240i/m340i are dynamically very much the same as a 230i/330i (they don't handle any better). An M3 on the other hand is a totally different handling experience.

DanG · 11-25-2021, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jhan315

One point is that the 1M and OG M2 have the N54 and N55 respectively but they dont have "true" S type engines. Is it just the badge and price tag? Even the new M240xi has a diff now and the M3 powerdome. I dont like up badging but bmw continues to provide more and more //M division exclusive parts to m-lite versions.

Let us be honest here. The 1M and M2 are big upgrades from the 135i and M240i. Not all real M cars have s type engines.

M_Bimmer · 11-26-2021, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DanG

...Not all real M cars have s type engines.

What ///M vehicle does not have an "S" engine, or did you mean M-sport?

DanG · 11-26-2021, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by M_Bimmer

What ///M vehicle does not have an "S" engine, or did you mean M-sport?

1M and 2016-2018 M2.

AVFC-330i Touring · 11-29-2021, 09:33 AM

An ///M is a completely different animal to an M=Sport

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workerONE Private 70 Rep 71 Posts Drives: M2C, GTI Stage 3 Join Date: Dec 2020 Location: Coachella Valley, CA iTrader: (0)	I saw a 440i with the m performance pack today. I had to do a double take. It has an m on the rear of the car. I'm fine with the cars that actually have an m in the model name, we can debate whether they're m cars. But the m performance pack with an m badge is not right. Last edited by workerONE; 11-24-2021 at 01:43 AM..
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IcewaterPete Lieutenant Colonel 2724 Rep 1,787 Posts Drives: 2020 F33 M Sport, 2021 M2C 6MT Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: Illinois iTrader: (0)	Of course a M Sport is not even close to being a real M car. Just had to add another useless affirmation to see how many pages we can stretch this topic to!!
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