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"Hi I'd like a semi-reliable car with super mediocre MPG and insane depreciation"
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In fairness this behavior isn't at all unique to EV culture. Some examples of the prevalence are RWD bias, MT bias, anti-SUV bias, German car bias, American truck bias, Jeep Wrangler bias, etc.. Emotion is driving their decision just like all of us. It's just that they may not share our same desires. 💡
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Personally it made perfect LOGICAL sense to me when I got one. Yes, I did save money, I reduced wear and tear on my M3, I used the carpool lane to save time, and the ability to turn on the AC with my phone, not just the fan, but the AC, in hot California summer was one of my most convenient features. I'm sorry you don't see the logic, but that doesn't mean that other people in different situations can't see it either.
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However, electric cars make GREAT backup/2nd cars that you can just pile the boring miles on. Really the only thing that scares me so far about them is the reliability. Yes, far less moving parts, but when things go wrong, it's going to be expensive and will I be able to fix it in the garage? Still probably worth a punt though, I'm very tempted.
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02-26-2021, 07:47 AM | #72 | |
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There is no sports that will match a Honda Fit in most categories and the "better" car is an potential buyers decision and depends on what is important to you. With the "what will I be able to fix in my garage" - car makers estimate the hours to build an EV are 30% less, before you worry about what you can fix you have to figure out what you expect will break and the number of components and complexity of what it going on is drastically reduced. How many sensors and moving parts are on a typical ICE today? The battery is the only thing that worries me at all long term. Electric motors, driving the wheels are extremely reliable and removing the transmission greatly helps overall. There are a lot of things I don't like about EV's but long term reliability isn't one of them.
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I completely agree that EV's have less moving parts, therefore it should be more reliable. But I know how to change oxygen sensors, do oil changes, have done rod bearings, replaced throttle actuators ect ect... I for one, would have no idea what to do if a car refuses to charge, or will not eject the charging chord, or if a module goes bad on an EV. Just like modern/complicated ICE cars, it's not necessarily the mechanical stuff that scares me long term, it's the electrical aspect.
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Me too! However there's plenty (maybe too many IMO) that find more appeal in vehicles like Tesla and iNext, and look down their nose at ICE-equipped vehicles as passé. Different things trigger emotions in different people. Emotion isn't exclusive to any one type of vehicles.
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Here's what I see: a perfectly legitimate discussion about different types of electric vehicles being trolled by an individual who a) didn't bother to read the thread b) has his/her own issues with the very emotion regulation he/she is complaining about in others. How about this: if a thread doesn't interest you, just move on? |
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Honestly, my PHEV is the best and the worst of both worlds.
For me it's the only thing that made sense and suited my needs to a T However, as an electric car it's very low range and less efficient because it's having to haul a gasoline generator all the time. As an ICE vehicle it's horrible because it's hauling a heavy battery and 2 electric motors at the same time as well. In the same token having to continually haul "dead weight" made it very flexible. The low center of gravity weight makes the car feel very substantial and planted. But running on skinny 215mm wide tires did not help handling at all. |
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My i3 is only 3000lbs, that already beats my M3 CS by 400-500lbs Fill up is nonexistent since I just plug in every night. There are EV's with 300+ ranges that will beat some gas guzzling SUVs and trucks My i3 is much more engaging that the Suburban we rented for a roadtrip once. The Tesla Model X can tow 5000lbs, much more than a MX-5. Quote:
I haven't had any issues with my i3. Besides the carbon monocoque and perhaps the batter, there are no massively expensive parts. The 12V batter is known to need to be replaced for higher mileage i3's but that's about it. Tires are cheap too.
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Oh, and regarding people who look down their nose at you (for any reason) - my advice is to ignore it and move on. |
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Good advice. ��
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I mounted my car charger
For simplicity sake and for safety/security reason, I've decided to mount and lock my car charger.
I bought an electrical breaker box that's just a bit bigger than the control module for the charger and gutted the inside. Keeping in mind this is a 110/220v portable charger and not a standard wall mount unit. I was able to cut out a slot at the bottom to keep the module high and dry and away from the weather. The charger is waterproof of course but keeping it protected and lockable makes it easier to leave outside which makes charging and put away much easier. The circuit breaker cut-out perfectly fits the charger view screen and control button. My buddy said he might even install a different box that would have RV/NEMA 6-20 plug in one box so I don't have to use any adapter but still be able to use my RV plug when needed. |
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Clean. For now, you don't really need an EV but for sure in the near future. California is banning sales of gas vehicles by 2035 and GM is going all electric production by 2035. So, for now we're safe but 2035 ain't so far off considering it's only 14 years from now--a lot of manufacturers and States might change course towards electric in the mean time. |
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My employer pays for my fuel... I wonder how I'd put the costs of EV charging at home on my expense report. Does anyone already do this and can detail how they recoup this expense?
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My wife and I own two vehicles. A 2014 BMW X3 28i and a 2020 Kia Soul EV with the 64 Kwh battery. We love the EV. We use it for my wife's commute and drive around town for her job. Before we bought the EV, we were spending over $700/month in gas for the bimmer. Our monthly fee, plus maintenance and electricity is around $600, so it was cheaper to get the EV. She also received .525 cents per KM to drive it for work. She drives about 50+ KMs every day, so the car is basically paying for itself. We use the bimmer for road trips etc. The EV range is around 420kms, which is TONS, but the ICE bimmer has no limitations.. soooo.....
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Before I was issued a card, it was in miles driven regardless of the cost of the fuel you bought, but that was literally a decade ago, I'm not sure what the new methods are. It would be the same for the EV, you get paid for the miles, not the cost of the electricity, similar to the post above me by anyland stated. Today with the company charge card I just use the card for fuel, but I don't get reimbursed directly for charging at home. That not a problem in some of my offices that provide free charging, but for home use you would have to calculate your expenses using your EV's consumption and your energy bill's rate per kWh and perhaps report it that way. Personally, I have a home office and a portion of the electricity bill in included in the rent I have my company pay me. A portion of the utilities are also tax deductible as a business expense. You just have to make sure you do the math right and consult your accountant.
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No mileage report required as the monthly auto allowance covers wear and tear.
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