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It's true that the 2 Series is also unique in that it spans two platforms, but most enthusiasts would agree that's a good thing since it means we get a small RWD coupe. Would it be even better if all 1 Series and 2 Series products were on a single RWD platform? Sure, but as I believe you mentioned in a post above, they were at a disadvantage to competitors with less interior space to work with, so something had to give. I'll add that the RWD entry-level lineup also put them at a manufacturing cost disadvantage. The good news is that all this should change in a decade (or so). A future BMW dedicated EV platform for small vehicles along the lines of VW's MEB will no doubt be RWD-first as any pure electric architecture should rightly be. While pure-RWD performance vehicles may not be plentiful due to the fact that they'd be leaving an entire second (or third, or third and fourth) motor's worth of power on the table, at least RWD-biased AWD will be readily available, and will no doubt be the norm for products with high performance aspirations. Finally, the M2 Gran Coupe and Minivan that we all want so bad will be possible. Well, maybe not so much the latter. |
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It would still just sit better with me if the transverse motors were all labeled MINI, or Morris, or just not BMW.
And I followed a 6GT earlier this week. I don't care how nice the inside is, that's possibly the dumbest way to spend that kind of money. |
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02-21-2019, 03:03 PM | #488 |
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Although I don’t like the FWD BMW motif, I do want BMW to make a car that’s similar in size to e46. Lack of manual is a downer too as in what has my favorite car mfg think I did to deserve this punishment.
That said, let me speak from the BMW spiked water cooler for a second. have you driven a f39 M35? It is an awesome drive and ride. Dare I say it f44 gc x M35 DCT will blow every e46 323-M3 clean off the road and then some. Ride better, handle better, 8 gears, sound meh, great fuel economy, low lease payment and under warranty. It might be categorized “don’t knock it, till you try it “ it might have Joy of driving and you don’t know it. Yet... |
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Some day, those that are honest and step back and realize that theyve been fooled because of the series numbering. There is no 3er anymore, and the only hope of a 3er in the classical model is for a rwd 2er to be offered. We’ve finally gotten to the point where the g20 is as large as the e39! And yet most still think its a 3er! The car has grown so large that regardless of the power added ot can never be as fun as what a 3er always was. They are big cars now and bmw needs a small sports sedan so Im hoping the 2er takes the mantle and reclaims some of the fun of the e30 thru e46 models |
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Latest F44 info from ynguldyn:
• New paints: Seaside Blue, Storm Bay, M235i specific Snapper Rocks Blue • 17" wheels standard, 18" and 19" optional • ZMP (optional for 228i, standard for M235i) will include bodywork, steering wheel, spoiler, sport suspension or adaptive suspension, brakes, better seats. • Live dashboard will be an option • As on other FWD 28i and 35i cars, engine power will be 228hp and 300hp. • Adaptive LED will be the top level headlight type
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You get a gran coupe, you get a gran coupe, everybody gets a gran coupe!
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To each their own. While I prefer the cleaner look of hoodline integrated with the top of the grill, it wouldn't be important enough to me to become a decision making factor in my purchase. |
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I don't understand the concept of these grand coupe.... you make a compact two door, the 2 series, and now you want to make them bigger? If I wanted something bigger, I would go for the 3 series instead...
kinda like the 4 series grand coupe, I hardly see them on the road : |
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My first bmw was an 86 e30 325es and Im wishing bmw could recapture the feel |
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People are interested in a smaller 4 door car (myself included) - you get some of the practicality of the bigger models, but not all of the unwanted size. Plus the GC styling is nicer for some vs. the traditional boxiness of the 3er, 5er, etc. My F80 could be perfect if it were smaller...but this is a FWD based travesty, so no real interest from me. Just pointing out the potential benefit.
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The 2er minivan is the worst car they've ever made...to your point, how in the hell that can share any designation with the best cars they've put out in a long time (M2/M2C) makes no effing sense. It's an abomination...something for the badge whores I suppose.
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BMW sells way more sedans than coupes... except for the E82 1 series and /F87 2 series... where there is no sedan. Of course.. now that a 2 series Gran coupe is coming.. and it's being built in MX for North America... a plant that should have no issues with plant capacity like they had at Leizpig.... the 2 series gran coupe will be their top selling 2 er... (we shall see if the 2 series coupe actually carries on in the next generation after F87 EOP 06/22) |
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