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05-28-2013, 11:34 AM | #23 | |
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I'm totally living with the consequences of that"want" factor right now. Lol. |
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05-28-2013, 11:49 AM | #24 | |
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05-28-2013, 11:59 AM | #25 |
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Unless your single I don't see a roadster as a good one car solution. My wife has a Q5 so we are covered for visits to Costco, moving kids to college and other things you need space for. Then I get to drive the Z to work and we can take it to the beach on the weekends, just me and the wife. Good excuse to get some time alone.
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05-28-2013, 12:23 PM | #26 |
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Wow, what a statement! Have you actually driven one? Aren't you forgetting how easy it is to bring the N54 up to the same power level as that NA V8?
http://www.topgear.com/uk/mercedes-b.../55-amg-driven Last edited by Asbjorn; 05-28-2013 at 12:32 PM.. |
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05-28-2013, 12:26 PM | #27 |
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But anyways, getting back on the original topic, I wonder why the BMW Corporate machine is so reluctant to market the Z4 properly. When I go to the dealer, there are scarcely any Z4 brochures. In fact, I never did get a 2012 brochure to go with my car. When I was inquiring about it, they showed me the M3, the M5, and every other car on the lot and I had to pry information on the Z4 out of the salesman. It was almost as if they were reluctant to sell me one. I just don't get it.
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05-28-2013, 12:47 PM | #28 |
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The car really is rare. Although I saw a white 35is a couple months that someone had brought to get serviced. I wouldn't say it's the red-headed stepchild because obviously we still get the same service as everyone else. I feel more like the adopted kid. Our "parents" love us all the same, but something's missing, we'll always feel out of place :P
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05-28-2013, 01:02 PM | #29 | |
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05-28-2013, 01:06 PM | #30 | |
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I doubt many if offered the exact same Z4 one a stock 35iS the other with underpinnings of the SLK55 (limited slip diff/torque vectoring breaking/drilled and vented 14.2/13 422bhp 5.5 liter V8/ AMG exhaust). Its shame the SLK looks so bland even in AMG from next to Z4 as there is some seriously great tech they are offering that that would cost a BOMB to replicate on a Z4 from either bmw or aftermarket. |
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05-28-2013, 02:25 PM | #31 |
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Stock vs modified comparisons are problematic. I would bet on the durability of the OEM car over a tuner special any day. Not a concern for a few highway pulls but huge concern for extended canyon drives or track days.
When I check the out the door price of the amg slk55 was higher than z4. Hard to get a deal on those amg in my experience. |
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05-28-2013, 06:11 PM | #32 |
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Problem in US they are only selling top of the range z4.
Here in the UK the smaller engined 23i and 30 abound. I will see at least 2 or 3 every morning on the way to work. |
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05-28-2013, 06:21 PM | #33 |
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Is that because BMW is not offering it? I have no idea. Getting any info out of the BMW dealer was like pulling teeth. When I finally decided on the 35is, it was only after I did my own research on the web. The dealer didn't provide me any info and really didn't outline my available options.
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05-28-2013, 06:30 PM | #34 | |
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Now living in Monterey, there's usually a few at the dealership. And because it's kind of a car town here, I typically see the same 3-4 daily driving throughout the week. |
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05-28-2013, 08:22 PM | #35 | |
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That would be a tough sell in the US since family haulers like camry v6 have 265hp and can do 0-60 in less than 6 seconds Last edited by nicknaz; 05-28-2013 at 08:39 PM.. |
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05-28-2013, 10:59 PM | #36 | |
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Probably yes. Does it also mean it is a FAR FAR better car than the 35is, even if we ignore the difference in looks? I do not think so, not at all... And cheers btw! (Sipping Kool-aid) Back on topic. It seems BMW is much more concerned with expanding their SUV offerings and moving into 3-cyl / hybrid / electic compact cars than making competitors to the Miatas, SL and R8 / SLS-roadsters of the world. And it is certainly not very encouraging when a sales rep acts like he forgot the Z-series even exists. One could say it is sad. But it seems BMW is the only luxury car manufacturer in the world that does not really need a roadster or supercar in its lineup to maintain an image of knowing how to provide sheer driving pleasure. |
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05-28-2013, 11:06 PM | #37 | |
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Also, with their plans on releasing the i8, I would call that a super car, especially if it's going to most likely cost well over $100,000. (Being devil's advocate here) |
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05-28-2013, 11:10 PM | #38 | |
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05-29-2013, 01:57 AM | #39 |
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Fingers crossed all the lightweight construction and high power density small engine tech from the i3 and i8 trickles into a next gen Z
8lb/hp in the form of 2800lbs carbon fiber intensive fixed roof car with front mid ship 350hp 4cyl turbo would be amazing!! |
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05-29-2013, 12:35 PM | #41 |
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Another thing, where does the "chick car" stigma come from? I haven't seen another E89 on the road, but I do know of 3 E86 Ms that are all driven by males in my area. The Porsche Boxster is a lot more common here, but that's honestly 50/50 when it comes to gender.
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05-29-2013, 05:11 PM | #42 | |
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05-29-2013, 06:17 PM | #43 |
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Yeah, when a friend mentioned that I said "Look, I don't know about you, but I'm a straight guy. If I drive something that girls actually know and are into, I count that as a good thing." Plus, girls just generally seem to have a better taste when it comes to aesthetics!
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05-29-2013, 08:17 PM | #44 |
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I find that the guys that think a Z4 is a chick car are muscle car types that think unless it's got a V8 in it and can't do anything other than a 1/4 mile time, it useless. They wouldn't know a decent handling, good looking car if it bit them in the ars. I bought mine because I like the way it looks even if I own a Harley and hang with the muscle car guys!
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