|
|
10-14-2011, 07:19 PM | #23 | |
Lieutenant
57
Rep 426
Posts |
Quote:
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
10-14-2011, 07:30 PM | #24 | |
Resistance is futile...
57
Rep 640
Posts |
Quote:
Not bashing on the 35i, i actually own one. Just setting facts straight =) Ps: the difference between the is and 35i in performance is around 30hp not 3. Proven on dyno's.
__________________
An ounce of performance is worth pounds of promises.
Last edited by Constant.S; 10-14-2011 at 07:35 PM.. |
|
Appreciate
0
|
10-14-2011, 08:30 PM | #25 |
Private First Class
14
Rep 118
Posts |
|
Appreciate
0
|
10-15-2011, 06:56 AM | #26 |
Resistance is futile...
57
Rep 640
Posts |
35is STAGE 1 and 35i Stage 2 are the same. Stage 2 not available yet for 35is/1M just to clear things up
__________________
An ounce of performance is worth pounds of promises.
|
Appreciate
0
|
10-15-2011, 07:27 AM | #27 | |
Private
0
Rep 65
Posts |
Quote:
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
10-15-2011, 08:03 AM | #28 |
Resistance is futile...
57
Rep 640
Posts |
Different internals (forged/semi-forged) makes a difference. Gearbox is the same GETRAG Powershift but different gearing ratios.
I wont try to convince anyone. If you wanna think its the same setup then go ahead =)
__________________
An ounce of performance is worth pounds of promises.
|
Appreciate
0
|
10-15-2011, 08:49 AM | #29 |
Colonel
65
Rep 2,087
Posts |
This thread (you) is the first I've heard there is any difference between the "i" and "is" engines. But, I'd believe it if you can provide some documentation. In the end, many people will believe what they want regardless, but documentation beats conversation. And don't tell me to google it or search because you're the one making the claim.
__________________
"Political correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional liberal minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end".-- Unknown
|
Appreciate
0
|
10-15-2011, 11:06 AM | #30 |
Major
85
Rep 1,264
Posts
Drives: 2010 Dinan S3 Z4-35i
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: San Francisco, CA
|
IMHO, the biggest difference between 35i and 35is are "ego" and "price hike" for a non-M car. The 35is brings a lot of it, as if it it were trying to compensate for some short comings...... Both cars are tunable!
As for the "antiquated" manual transmission, I've test driven DCT and I "personally" don't care to buy a car that makes "me" feel like I'm playing a Playstation video game by pushing and pulling buttons. The only thing I liked about the 35IS are it's shoes, which I stole.
__________________
2015 BMW i3 REX
Last edited by flpnout; 10-15-2011 at 11:14 AM.. |
Appreciate
0
|
10-15-2011, 11:32 AM | #31 | ||
New Member
2
Rep 27
Posts |
Quote:
|
||
Appreciate
0
|
10-15-2011, 01:14 PM | #33 | |
Resistance is futile...
57
Rep 640
Posts |
Quote:
Maybe i know a thing or two cause I AM rebuilding my engine for a near future Turbo upgrade... I say "maaaybeee". PS: I remember last time you wanted facts on a thread here i presented them (remember Gummi pfledge product? ). Im done with this thread. Peace
__________________
An ounce of performance is worth pounds of promises.
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
12-03-2012, 08:39 PM | #35 | |
Lieutenant General
3193
Rep 10,509
Posts |
Quote:
http://www.n54tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10605 Check out the bottom of that first post with default jb4 settings for "regular n54" and "1m/335is" (N54T) The boost targets are higher and start at the peak boost at lower rpm. It is all speculation unless cars are raced heads up but I wouldn't be surprised if the 35is was quicker than 35i (stock and with tune) |
|
Appreciate
0
|
12-04-2012, 03:16 AM | #37 | |
Lieutenant General
3193
Rep 10,509
Posts |
Quote:
15psi target from 2500 to 5000rpm sounds a lot better to me than 11psi ramping up to 15psi at 5500 rpm. Other than part numbers on the realoem website what other tech has come up on the forums to validate that the 35is is just a factory tune? I just keep seeing the same speculation rehashed when I search. |
|
Appreciate
0
|
12-18-2012, 02:07 PM | #38 |
Captain
213
Rep 887
Posts |
Hi,
Its pretty interesting realoem states N54T for 1m/Z4 35is, and along with other websites saying the is was also tweaked by the M division. When ppl with the 35i call out others with the 35is with a "big ego" I just chuckle. It's like the e46 328 guys saying that with an intake they'll be as fast as e46 330i. It kinda of went both ways between supercharged 330's and M3's. Speaking for experience I can say that my supercharged 330's both beat and lost marginally to M3's. I beat an M6 on the highway. I picked up an Z4is because IMO 335hp with engine, tranny, suspension tuning (and I think additional oil coolers) under warranty is better than a Z4 35i with a chip w/o warranty. At the end of the day who cares. As long as we enjoy our rides. |
Appreciate
0
|
12-19-2012, 08:54 PM | #39 |
Lieutenant Colonel
120
Rep 1,668
Posts |
|
Appreciate
0
|
12-19-2012, 09:03 PM | #40 |
Lieutenant Colonel
120
Rep 1,668
Posts |
I'll take the 35iDinan please. I figure why just have a long name on the side of your car when you can have it on the back too.
sDrive35iDinan on the side vs Z4Dinan on the rear |
Appreciate
0
|
12-20-2012, 03:46 AM | #41 | |
Captain
93
Rep 833
Posts |
Quote:
Tranny tuning? Are you sure? I think the most important question is: Is your 35is able to hold revs without upshifting automatically in M-mode? I assume not? I think this feature is only available with M dct cars? Suspension tuning? Isnt it just that they offer beautiful 19" wheels with less grip and less comfort than the 18"? Or maybe the tuning mentioned is specific to the adaptive suspension? Additional oil coolers? My 35i already has the aux oil cooler! I would imagine the 1M has better cooling, but the 35is? I do believe the 35is has a tuned steering (different filter characteristics) to let more feedback/vibrations pass though! And if we forget about the warranty discussion, in my book this is the biggest possible technical advantage of the 35is vs a tuned 35i. |
|
Appreciate
0
|
12-23-2012, 09:52 AM | #42 |
Mpbruin108
196
Rep 869
Posts |
I picked up a 35i + ESS stg 2. I, personally, didn't think the 35is was worth the extra cash even if it is a tad bit stronger. I put a lot of that upgrade money into KW, upgraded wheels, intercooler, DP, etc and still pocketed some change. My butt dyno says 35hp increase between the two won't be missed.
And I guess I'm lucky with having STBMW near me so I don't have to worry about BMW a-holes flagging my car....but if I had to, i don't think I'll have much problem putting the car back to stock for warranty purposes. I almost never go to the dealer anyways.
__________________
So Cal Drivers: Get your Tires from us to get them QUICKLY (same or next day) and at a GREAT Deal.
2244 Tyler Avenue, South El Monte| Call: 626-443-8539 Active: 2015 BMW i8, 2024 BMW iX, 2018 Mclaren 720s |
Appreciate
0
|
12-24-2012, 10:07 AM | #44 | |
Captain
213
Rep 887
Posts |
Quote:
I stand corrected, you are correct about the oiler coolers. I just did some research on realoem.com and the only notable differences besides the obvious body and interior aesthetics are exhaust, and brakes. I think i read some where the IS was also 10mm lower but I could be mistaken. There seams to be a slot of misleading articles and posts on the web. Anyways I agree the biggest advantage is the warranty. If I was in the market for a used car and warranty wasn't a concern I would probably go with the 35i m sport package w/ tune and aftermarket parts. But unfortunately I need a payment for tax issues and already had my fill with a built up car with no warranty. I love my supercharged 3 series but she can be a headache at times. Its nice to have something in same area of power/speed with warranty. I feel more comfortable taking the Z4 to a track day knowing that if something happens ill have warranty and a loaner car waiting for me. |
|
Appreciate
0
|
Post Reply |
Bookmarks |
|
|