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      07-25-2007, 09:07 AM   #79
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Here are a few quotes from Tenet's book and you tell me if you believe your statement accurately reflects Tenet's position.
There was more than enough evidence to give us real concern about Iraq and al-Qa'ida; there was plenty of smoke, maybe even some fire: Ansar al-Islam; Zarqawi; Kurmal; the arrests in Europe; the murder of American USAID officer Lawrence Foley, in Amman, at the hands of Zarqawi's associates; and the Egyptian Islamic Jihad operatives in Baghdad...

The intelligence told us that senior al-Qa'ida leaders and the Iraqis had discussed safe haven in Iraq. Most of the public discussion thus far has focused on Zarqawi's arrival in Baghdad under an assumed name in May of 2002, allegedly to receive medical treatment. Zarqawi, whom we termed a "senior associate and collaborator" of al-Qa'ida at the time, supervised camps in northern Iraq run by Ansar al-Islam (AI).

We believed that up to two hundred al-Qa'ida fighters began to relocate there in camps after the Afghan campaign began in the fall of 2001. The camps enhanced Zarqawi's reach beyond the Middle East. One of the camps run by AI, known as Kurmal, engaged in production and training in the use of low-level poisons such as cyanide. We had intelligence telling us that Zarqawi's men had tested these poisons on animals and, in at least one case, on one of their own associates. They laughed about how well it worked. Our efforts to track activities emanating from Kurmal resulted in the arrest of nearly one hundred Zarqawi operatives in Western Europe planning to use poisons in operations...

What was even more worrisome was that by the spring and summer of 2002, more than a dozen al-Qa'ida-affiliated extremists converged on Baghdad, with apparently no harassment on the part of the Iraqi government. They had found a comfortable and secure environment in which they moved people and supplies to support Zarqawi's operations in northeastern Iraq...

More al-Qa'ida operatives would follow, including Thirwat Shihata and Yussef Dardiri, two Egyptians assessed by a senior al-Qa'ida detainee to be among the Egyptian Islamic Jihad's best operational planners, who arrived by mid-May of 2002. At times we lost track of them, though their associates continued to operate in Baghdad as of October 2002. Their activity in sending recruits to train in Zarqawi's camps was compelling enough.

There was also concern that these two might be planning operations outside Iraq. Credible information told us that Shihata was willing to strike U.S., Israeli, and Egyptian targets sometime in the future. Shihata had been linked to terrorist operations in North Africa, and while in Afghanistan he had trained North Africans in the use of truck bombs. Smoke indeed. But how much fire, if any?...

...from an intelligence point of view it would have been difficult to conclude that the Iraqi intelligence service was not aware of their activities.


Unless you wish to argue that the Constitution of the United States laid out a system of government that can accurately be described as a dictatorship, then the application of constitutional Presidential power is not dictatorial.
I cannot ignore this...

1) G Tenet publically came on TV (Russert) and admitted what Mantis pointed out. You choose a few lines from a 300 page book as the ONLY valid fact and argument for this matter???
I also founbd these comments that all have good points: http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0209-02.htm

Here is the transcript from the Meet the Press: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18416169/

Here is one of Bush's lies, that you will probably blame on bad intel:
"PRES. GEORGE W. BUSH: Saddam Hussein still has chemical and biological weapons, and he is moving ever closer to developing a nuclear weapon."

He's nowhere saying that they only think this is the case, but assures that IS the case.

Later, down, we show Chaney actually blaming the action (Iraq) on Tenet now...

Finally -- the dictatorship. So, if it fits to our system, then it must be the only acceptable way. However, when others do the same thing, but do not kiss our asses -- we call them either dictatorship regimes or COmmunists, or...

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