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      05-23-2018, 02:48 PM   #66
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There's no ECU difference in the BRZ and GT86 is there? I know they're more closely related than the Supra and Z4 likely will be but it seems like reasonable basis for Toyota selling a bog stock B58.
Yes, but which car had the developmental priority: the Toyota or the Subaru?

The Toyota. By far. Whatever Toyota wanted the engine to do, it got it to do. I suspect it will have the same attitude toward the Bxx hardware it's appropriating. The Supra is too important a car to be a slave to BMW's idea of how a drivetrain should perform -- and you know the automotive press will be hyper-analyzing that aspect from the first moment the car is released.

In this relationship, Toyota is the bad-ass. Not BMW.
So it will have a torque dip at 4.5k rpm, sound like death and lean itself out over 6k rpm and die regularly on the Autobahn? I'm not saying Subaru always gets their engines right, but I've tried to buy a BRZ a few times and that engine is violently bad, and from what you just said and plenty of what I've read, it's Toyota's oh so brilliant engineers that did all of the bad things.
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