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What's the cost per kwh in 2022 dollars?
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the battery is 16KWh, and costs $30K to replace, so that's abut $1875
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I realize that the cost of older batteries can make older models obsolete or too costly to repair. Like I've said in other posts, I don't think owning an EV long term is attractive right now due to this.
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Perhaps it's not your point, but it is mine.
I don't want to embrace a disposable solution to achieve a more green status. It's antithetical to me.
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In bold, what I was suggesting is that current and future EVs will be designed in such a way that battery swaps will become easier, reducing labor costs to do swaps.
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I prefer to look at contemporary truths to predict my future. We as a society suck at future proofing our products. We adopt a disposable mindset, even you embrace this. I see no reason to believe I'll be able to buy a replacement battery for a 2023 Tesla Plaid for $5k in 8 years. perhaps I'm being cynical, but I also base my belief in historical facts, and observation of present truths.
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They already do this on the fly for motorcycles and tuck tucks in other parts of the world. It also reduces down time for charging, so instead of waiting for your car to charge, you just roll into a station, and they swap your battery for you. So essentially, replacing a 8 year old battery will be as simple as changing your oil.
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This theory was presented 10 years ago, still not preset and viable today. future theory < present truth.
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Essentially, what I think could happen is this: EV batteries get standardized much like the batteries we put in our remote controls. For instance, a EV battery standard could make it possible for a 2023 EV to accept a new battery in 2033, much like a TV remote from 1980 still accepts a AAA battery from 2022 and still take advantage of the technological achievements in said battery (rechargeability etc). Supply for legacy batteries wouldn't be such an issue.
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That sounds nice, we should push for that too. future theory < present truth.
I want the same future you do, I really mean that very sincerely. I'm just trying to be realistic. We have limitations to work around.