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      12-14-2009, 02:04 PM   #111
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Agreed. And add to your list:

- Z4sDrive35is... seriously?! And it's emblazoned across the side of the car. Reminds me of that dumb move Mercedes made by plastering the word 'Kompressor' across the side of their super-charged cars back in the late 90's, early 2000s.

- So what do you call the damned thing? Imagine someone asking you what you drive. You ponied up a lot more money for your car, so naturally you'll want them to to know you have a more souped-up version of the Z4. You can't say Z4 ///M (because it's not even close). Therefore, you don't simply say Z4. You have to say "Z4sDrive35is" Try the same with a 3-series (or virtually any other BMW model) and the exchange is so much easier. I drive a 335i or I drive an M3. People know instantly what you've got. Period. The name is stupid.Bingo!
While I wholeheartedly agree that the naming convention is dumb. It follows that of the 3 series, X5 series, etc. Afterall, they only added a single letter to what the car was already referred with this new ///M sport pack... that being the 's' on the end.


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- Why dilute the power of the ///M brand by attaching it to a car that's "not quite an ///M"?! Should have sucked it up and done it right -- bringing not this badge-engineered ///M car to market, but a true ///M roadster.
This is something BMW has been offering for aero/sport package equipped non-///M cars for decades. Just not in this country for some time now until recently.
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      12-14-2009, 02:18 PM   #112
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like the front bumper, like the power increase
don't like the rear bumper, rear view mirrors, or carbon interior
I thought I was the only one. I dont like that carbon look interior either. It just doesnt suit the car , at least for me.
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      12-14-2009, 04:42 PM   #113
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That looks fantastic in red.
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      12-14-2009, 04:42 PM   #114
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It's a decent upgrade for those that want it but it's still a fake, wanna-be M. Make a proper M Roadster and M Coupe!
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      12-14-2009, 05:16 PM   #115
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It's a decent upgrade for those that want it but it's still a fake, wanna-be M. Make a proper M Roadster and M Coupe!
no I disagree on the top,, I really like the hardtop convertible
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      12-14-2009, 07:09 PM   #116
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I dont get the guys who want to trash the guys who dont have the extra 30 horsepower or the latest? Who cares. I didnt buy this car because it was the hairiest thing out there. I had vettes for years. My last one would destroy the car I have now. I didnt care. I wanted this cool roadster. I wanted to cruise around. It handles , corners, goes, just beautifully. No it doesnt do the quarter in low 11's or 0 to 60 in 3.7 like my z06 did. But, and this is a big but. Its twice the car my vette was in every sophisticated way. Im with clarkson on this. If you could only have one car, then this is it for me. My vette never gave me the enjoyment this one does. So no, I wont run out to buy the mild refresh.
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      12-14-2009, 07:14 PM   #117
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I dont get the guys who want to trash the guys who dont have the extra 30 horsepower or the latest? Who cares. I didnt buy this car because it was the hairiest thing out there. I had vettes for years. My last one would destroy the car I have now. I didnt care. I wanted this cool roadster. I wanted to cruise around. It handles , corners, goes, just beautifully. No it doesnt do the quarter in low 11's or 0 to 60 in 3.7 like my z06 did. But, and this is a big but. Its twice the car my vette was in every sophisticated way. Im with clarkson on this. If you could only have one car, then this is it for me. My vette never gave me the enjoyment this one does. So no, I wont run out to buy the mild refresh.
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      12-15-2009, 08:49 AM   #118
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I have one burning question about BMWs unveiling:

What did they do to this guy's hairdo to get it to stand up to open top running and not a hair misplaced - it's incredible!

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      12-15-2009, 10:25 AM   #119
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      12-15-2009, 10:58 AM   #120
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Hey Santa34,


I just figured it out why you are giving us all these exaggerated, over the top responses to a simple front and rear facia changes.

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      12-15-2009, 01:40 PM   #121
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What did they do to this guy's hairdo to get it to stand up to open top running and not a hair misplaced - it's incredible!.
That's not a hairdo, it is the range topping M sport wind deflector he is wearing.
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      12-15-2009, 02:59 PM   #122
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I dont get the guys who want to trash the guys who dont have the extra 30 horsepower or the latest? Who cares. I didnt buy this car because it was the hairiest thing out there. I had vettes for years. My last one would destroy the car I have now. I didnt care. I wanted this cool roadster. I wanted to cruise around. It handles , corners, goes, just beautifully. No it doesnt do the quarter in low 11's or 0 to 60 in 3.7 like my z06 did. But, and this is a big but. Its twice the car my vette was in every sophisticated way. Im with clarkson on this. If you could only have one car, then this is it for me. My vette never gave me the enjoyment this one does. So no, I wont run out to buy the mild refresh.
I just figured them out. They have z4 envy and are the type of person that just plain get a kick out of trying to piss people off.

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      12-15-2009, 09:42 PM   #123
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It doesn't look nice at all from interior to exterior.
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      12-15-2009, 10:37 PM   #124
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      01-12-2010, 01:54 PM   #125
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That looks fantastic in red.
Then presumably you'll like the pictures from Detroit, courtesy of Autoblog:

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/01/12/d...rtaining-than/
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      01-12-2010, 04:39 PM   #126
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it just looks like fun to drive. I can't believe how much more I like the way this one looks compared the the regular 35i. Looks do matter.
that is a statement that is for effect. There really is not a huge amount of difference between the looks of the two. You are just trying to get a rise out of people.
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Hey Santa34,


Wait a minute…… the light bulb just went off over my head…… I just figured it out why you are giving us all these exaggerated, over the top responses to a simple front and rear facia changes. Its Z4 envy isn’t it. C’mon admit it, its Z4 envy. Well.....we know you won’t admit to this. Too much embarrassment. We totally understand.
In addition, you’re the type that just plain likes to say silly stuff just to piss people off, aren't you?
Well, I guess we can all say this was one big swing and a miss for you. Sorry.
We have some lovely parting gifts for you back stage. Run along now and try it on a different forum. Maybe one where they won’t catch on to you.
Your non response will prove your guilt. So go ahead, prove me right.
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      01-14-2010, 02:15 AM   #128
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BMW really nailed it with Z4
Love it!
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      04-30-2010, 04:38 PM   #129
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It is a car somewhere between dignified and sporty. A very handsome retro - just what a gentleman would drive when going to his golf club.
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What a dissapointment.
1. No Manual option
2. Lackluster performance boost
3. No brake upgrade - should xdrilled discs+6 pistons
4. Horrible aluminium trim - reminds me of stock 135i trim
5. Wheels look cheap and should be 19inch
6. Silly side mirrors
7. Price premium???

What I do like is the new exhaust system (heard it testing at nurburgring) and tightened steering response. But unfortunately for me the negatives outweigh the positives.

Bring on the N55 versions...
A lot of negatives coming from someone who hasn't driven it yet....

The "is" tune is super underrated on paper. And the stock brakes are more than sufficient. This car is M3 quick.

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The net cost difference between a fully loaded 35i w/ M Sport and DCT and a 35is is around $5,000. Not too bad when you consider the whole package, including the 67 ft lb of tq with overboost, and the suspension/dct/steering software tweaks.

I like the 35i M Sport Style 325M wheels a lot better than the 35is stock Style 295 wheels, so if I went with the 35is I'd have to spend another $1,200 for the Style 326M wheels so that pushes the 35is price a little higher.

On the other hand, the 35i w/ MT + Dinan Stage 1 tune bucks up the tq to +76 over the stock 300 and is considerably less than the 35is, even considering $1,699 for Dinan. Of course that won't get you BMW's suspension/dct/steering software tweaks. But, I think a person can get fairly close with minor suspension tweaks such as better torsional control.

Have not driven the 35is, but I'm with Alext on the MT issue. That would tend to make me go for the 35i + MT + M Sport Package (even though I don't like the Shadow Carbon trim) and a Dinan Stage 2. The money's about the same when you throw in a few suspension tweaks and better brakes when they come out with a full set f/r, but you get 116 ft lbs tq over stock (vs 67 on the 35is).

It will be a tough choice. I think the thing that's a little irritating is BMW is doing this as an interim step before they come out with the full ///M version (not just partially badged ///M). So, even though a lot of people will love the 35is, you get the feeling they are milking the consumers because as soon as the new ///M coupe/hardtop comes out, some will go crazy over it and need to dump the 35is to get the ///M.




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