2009 BMW Z4 U.S Pricing Released!

[155MPH]

Originally Posted by jgorman13

This is the case with any car. A month after they come in, the sales will slow to nothing. Even the chevy HHR sold well its first month with all the buzz.

Good point. I think I will drive my Z4M another summer and see how this car does in the press and on the lots until fall. If it holds up well, I may consider it then.

And meanwhile...I can see if I win the BMWCCA raffle

[Ced]

A one year old E92 M3 with less than 5K miles will cost less than this... go figure... I would use the economy to my advantage.

[155MPH]

Originally Posted by Ced

A one year old E92 M3 with less than 5K miles will cost less than this... go figure... I would use the economy to my advantage.

You can get a 2006 911 Carrera 4 Conv. with ~5K in miles too for about the same price. I know, I just found one locally here. And it has full leather, nav, 19" wheels, etc. Order that new and you are talking 100K+

[Alext]

Originally Posted by BiscottiGelato

The sDrive35i Z4 have the same engine as the 135i and I think it's heavier than the 135i? If the 135i is only competitive with the Cayman, then I don't see how the Z4 will be competitive to the Boxster S...

It is not just the weight difference that comes into play. The '09 Z4 has a lower centre of gravity, different suspension set up, stiffer chassis (I presume dont know exact figures), steering etc that would, I am certain, add up to greater cornering speed than the 135i in stock form. I would venture to say that a z4 35i would be faster around BMW's test track than a 135i.

Hence it could well be competitive in this regard to a Boxster S.

One thing the 135i would have an advantage in is its awesome 6-pot brakes. But who knows how effective the new Z4's braking system actually is yet?

[155MPH]

Originally Posted by Alext

One thing the 135i would have an advantage in is its awesome 6-pot brakes. But who knows how effective the new Z4's braking system actually is yet?

According to 1 of the first drives the brakes are not up to the current Z4M. But then, that is a high bar.

[E82tt6]

I guess they do want it to be a hairdresser car afterall. At $60k reasonably equiped, any real performance minded enthusiast would be looking at a cayman/boxster a, M3, or C6/z06.

Peformance below the Evo/135i/370Z/Camaro/C6 for $20k plus is unjustifiable. This tells me BMW is moving further away from "sporty" cars, which disapoints me. BMW just turned the Z from a legitimate mid-range sports car into a full blown status symbol/fashion statement/chick car.

BMW, I'm disapointed, but I guess I shouldn't be surprised given the M SUVs, and a 3700lb M3.

[Ced]

Originally Posted by 155MPH

You can get a 2006 911 Carrera 4 Conv. with ~5K in miles too for about the same price. I know, I just found one locally here. And it has full leather, nav, 19" wheels, etc. Order that new and you are talking 100K+

[THE JEDI]

Price are not that bad this has a fully functional hard top and the dollar is taking a beating and it's sexy as hell....I got my z4 and I'm trying to sell it as fast as I can..to buy either this or a 335ic....yeah I get to purchase mine thru MILITARY sales in japan..so wish me luck.

[E89.35i]

despite what the MSRP is, just look at the options list.
things like power seats... heated seats...anti theft alarm...homelink etc. are still fu..king OPTIONAL for a 50K car????
very amazing, they are all standard on a 20k-25k honda, toyota etc etc.
and optional on a $50K BMW? LMAO

[Red Bread]

Originally Posted by E89.35i

despite what the MSRP is, just look at the options list.
things like power seats... heated seats...anti theft alarm...homelink etc. are still fu..king OPTIONAL for a 50K car????
very amazing, they are all standard on a 25k honda, or on most 15k-30k cars,
and optional on a 50k bmw? LMAO

Personally, I'd rather have the choice. Power seats tend to make the seats taller, so skipping that option is nice for the taller folks, and I'm the only driver of my car, and never move the seats. Alarms are good at making noise, but useless. Homelink is overpriced and no better than a standard clicker. Why would I want those? Find me a rear wheel drive Honda*. Oops.

Don't look at Porsche options...


* I'm assuming S2000 production is dead, even if not, sales have been in the double digits for months now.

[E89.35i]

Originally Posted by Red Bread

Personally, I'd rather have the choice. Power seats tend to make the seats taller, so skipping that option is nice for the taller folks, and I'm the only driver of my car, and never move the seats. Alarms are good at making noise, but useless. Homelink is overpriced and no better than a standard clicker. Why would I want those? Find me a rear wheel drive Honda*. Oops.

Don't look at Porsche options...


* I'm assuming S2000 production is dead, even if not, sales have been in the double digits for months now.

ya right, how about an optional cup holder too? lol
i'd rather have that choice cuz i dont drink in cars?

[Red Bread]

Originally Posted by E89.35i

ya right, how about an optional cup holder too? lol
i'd rather have that choice cuz i dont drink in cars?

Fine with me, I took them out of my M Coupe and don't use them in the 1er either. I'd rather have somewhere to put my phone. Would it surprise you to know that I also don't like sunroofs?

[antzcrashing]

Originally Posted by jlstyle

Haha...
So what's the major reason you need this over a M3 or Porsche???
This is hilarious.

The M3 convertible starts at 66K, so its 14K cheaper, thats why u need it

[antzcrashing]

Originally Posted by Ced

A one year old E92 M3 with less than 5K miles will cost less than this... go figure... I would use the economy to my advantage.

so wait 1 year and the Z4 will be less expensive, why do people compare new to used, apples oranges

[E82tt6]

Originally Posted by antzcrashing

The M3 convertible starts at 66K, so its 14K cheaper, thats why u need it

Pretty sure people were talking about the M3 coupe.

[E89.35i]

Originally Posted by Red Bread

Fine with me, I took them out of my M Coupe and don't use them in the 1er either. I'd rather have somewhere to put my phone. Would it surprise you to know that I also don't like sunroofs?

no, not at all.
im prettry sure "YOU" dont need anything, as long as the car can start and go, then everything else are useless im sure, haha

However, im also pretty sure that the "Majority" of people wont spent $50k + on a car like that. Maybe not a Z4, but cars like that has that brand but doesnt have enough luxurys as it should have.
Opps, Sorry, luxury isnt the right word for cars doesnt even have power seats, alarms, homelink etc. as standard, and most 20k-25k cars have them as "STANDARD".

E85 Z4 maybe is not luxury car. But since E89 Z4 changed it to a "standard" POWER TRACTABLE HARDTOP, im sure BMW and most ppl knows that it is going toward luxury, Obviously, BMW would rather sacrifice it's performance by adding a lot of extra weight to it. BUT, it still doesnt even have those basic features as standard.

I believe the "majority" of ppl here are not stupid, we all know why bmw is doing this, by puting these features as optional.


One day, on a parking lot, when some1 with a 20k-25k honda toyota, hyundai, nissan, pontiac, chevy, etc etc, asks you: "yo, howmuch is ur BMW Z4? it looks so cool man." u say: "$50k+!!!!". then he say: "how come ur BMW doesnt have power seats?" im sure ull say " oh, because i dont need them"

hahahaha


maybe u really dont need them, but i dont think he thinks that way, lol
and i know that u know what he thinks. u can lie to other ppl, but dont lie to urself.
fact is fact, learn to face fact. dont learn to lie to urself. it's a stupid behavior and idiotic personality

Yes those basic features are optional to u, but they are actually standard features that at a minimum 95%+ ppl will have no choice but to purchase them.
This, is the fact.

[EmPower]

Originally Posted by E82tt6

Pretty sure people were talking about the M3 coupe.

again... difference between e92 and e93 =~ 10K. If a coupe would come out, it would undercut the tin can version by ~8-10K

Think about that

[Red Bread]

Originally Posted by EmPower

again... difference between e92 and e93 =~ 10K. If a coupe would come out, it would undercut the tin can version by ~8-10K

Think about that

Both Z3 and Z4 Coupes were only about $1,500 cheaper than the Roadster versions. While the E89 clearly has more expense in the roof, I doubt that the price difference would be as significant as it is with the 3er cars. Of course a coupe version of the E89 does seem highly unlikely, it's not the sportiest thing in the first place, and the Z2 would appear to already have sporty and low-volume coupe covered.

[Gymkata]

[greentea335i]

u can damn near get a s5 with that price LOL!!!!

[BK]

Originally Posted by greentea335i

u can damn near get a s5 with that price LOL!!!!

Or a fully loaded M3. Or a used Lotus PLUS a used Exige. Yes, I think it's too much.