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12-20-2009, 03:48 AM | #23 |
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12-20-2009, 05:26 AM | #25 |
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Stupid price, for the money I'll take the much prettier, much more exclusive and MUCH better driving Ferrari 458 Italia or if I want to save money and buy another flat in Spain i'd buy the V10 R8.
BMW needs to price it's cars a bit better. This is a mass production car, there is no way it is worth the price tag. Fail. But sure, for a customer racing program it's may be interesting, depends whats in the package, like support at races etc etc. Still, I think porsche would be a better cup race car for those with money, otherwise nothing wrong with Megan R26R as bunch of my friends commuting to the Ring every year say.
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12-20-2009, 07:14 AM | #27 |
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I wonder if the price includes factory support from BMW at all, kind of like a motorplan aimed at racing?
And I'm pretty sure that for racing cars, the price is probably below par compared to the other GT3 competitors... Who's up for a google so we can get some comparisons here? EDIT: OK, I tried to get pricing on the 911 GT3 RSR and Audi R8 GT3, but no pricing on the websites. That makes me assume the price is probably on a "P.O.A" basis, meaning if you have to ask, you probably can't afford it. Will keep looking though. OK, according to Autoblog, as of 22 January 2009 a 911 GT3 RSR will set you back €380,000. According to motorauthority though, the Reiter Lambo Gallardo GT3 comes in at somewhat of a bargain €265,000 as of 21 July 2009... Z4 GT3 comes in at €298,000. If the Gallardo still goes for that price, I'd probably take that if I was to go GT3 racing. Still, seems the price for the Z4 is more or less within range of what the GT3 racecars go for. Last edited by kooper; 12-20-2009 at 07:42 AM.. |
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12-20-2009, 07:44 AM | #28 |
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The $420,000 does seem steep when considering the M3 GTS which is also a fully prepped race car from the factory is $150,000.
This explains it a bit: http://bmw-motorsport.com/ms/en/race...ar/z4_gt3.html. There is a GT2 M3, a GT3 Z4, and a GT4 M3, all factory race cars at varying prices.
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Isn't the M3 GTS a roadgoing car though? Kind of like a modern CSL version of the road legal E92 M3? Unless they call the GT4 racer a GTS as well, which I think is kind of silly.
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12-20-2009, 08:19 AM | #30 |
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'If' I had a half a milion, and folks, that would be a good start to your budget for the car alone, then I'd choose the car that is fastest. When it comes to this type of performance the brands start to become somewhat less relevant.
Most people on here, seems to me, have ferrari dreams and so they say things like 'if I were to spend $500K I'd get the ferrari' - but what if the new Z4GT3 laps faster? Isn't the point of racing - winning? I'm personally interested in seeing how this car does against the competition before parting with my money. In the meantime, I can probably...hopefully...afford the scale model. I'll try to find mine with M stripes. |
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12-20-2009, 09:03 AM | #31 |
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Correct, I think the GTS is the road going version of the GT4. I don't know if a roll cage is included.
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How can comparing steet cars to a race car be a fair comparison? The Z4 would run circles around either the 458 or the R8 v10. Price out what a R8 GT3 costs for a fair comparison
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I still think a 911 cup car could be a much better value considering it's been tried and tested and is a known quantity. This on the other hand is anyone's guess. Great car for a one make series may be but that's about it. Still too expensive. half a million dollars can buy you a very nicely functioning WRC car for example (not new obviously but it would be fast as fak in tarmac spec - ask me how i know ). Quote:
id take a bet that a race prepped ferrari would not be slower. honestly this is more marketing than racing imho. I would guess that the Z4 for starters is a heavy car. go from there...
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12-20-2009, 11:38 AM | #35 |
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yes, the price is ridiculous but how many will BMW sell of this factory racer custom? it has to be priced accordingly based on estimated units to be sold - maybe 10-20 total??? then it has to be expensive.
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I guess we'll just have to wait for the 2010 racing season to see who's faster.
I do wonder what they did with the top. I assume the folding mechanism is gone and the top is 1 piece and permanently attached? The M3 roll cage is welded in so do they do the same with the Z4?
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911 GT3 RS or RSR, whatever the case may be. EDIT: Aaaaand that's the GT2 list... Nevermind, as you were, steady on and all that. Agreed with richard in NC, best to first see what the Z4 accomplishes in the championship before tagging the car as overpriced. Besides, if the car can ensure consistent victories I'm sure some teams would be willing to pay double... |
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it's been a while since i've looked but i thought that no lambo team has even placed yet. |
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12-20-2009, 02:36 PM | #39 |
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I know It was a joke based on dszpiro comment before mine. And, a used Ferrari being sold by a private party wouldn't be subject to Ferrari's CPO program, regardless. |
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it's actually a good idea. maybe Hartge can do it for $100k or so. they did it for the 3 series, and for the old z4 so i'm sure if you really wanted to they could do it for our E89.
http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evoc...e_h50_v10.html
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I doubt the last NA M car will be a Z4M.. there is no way in hell are they putting the 4.0 V8 S65 engine into the current E89 Z4 Chassis.. it just doesn't make economical sense
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I'm sorry but Ferrari is for douchebags , and a show-off car .
Z4 GT3 is somewhere totally else, and for instance , AC in a GT3 spec car is about 80 000 $ that's almost a 1/5 of a whole car price . so without AC ( everyone is gonna pick AC tho .. ) it's 340 000$ and that's a really cool price for a GT3 Specced car . And i can asure you , that you're not gonna buy a Z4 GT3 without having few millions on your bank account . |
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This doesn't sound right to me... Why would BMW offer this in the Z4 over a 1 series? MAYBE if the V8 cant fit in a 1... but still
A competitive convertible in GT3? I don't get it.
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