Bieber's Liberty Walk Ferrari 458 Sold For...

[elusive]

$434,500
That's a $200k+ premium just for being his car.
https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Even...BIEBERS-203288

[RABAUKE]

Who's Justin Bieber?

[///M Power-Belgium]

08/26/14 CARFAX shows a California damage report. Vehicle involved in a rear-end collision, airbags did not deploy !

[sygazelle]

Originally Posted by RABAUKE

Who's Justin Bieber?

He is a snot-nosed kid who gets in the headlines a lot with his bad choices.

I can't believe I'm saying this, but he's also a kid with a lot of talent. My wife is an unashamed bieberhead so his CDs are always playing in her car. When I am in her car I'm subjected to his music and, at first, I'd change the CD out to anything else. After awhile, I got more used to it and actually started listening. I think the kid is talented.

It's hard to be normal when you have that much money and fame at such a young age. Hopefully he will grow up before he does something terminal.

[NorCal f80]

Originally Posted by sygazelle

He is a snot-nosed kid who gets in the headlines a lot with his bad choices.

I can't believe I'm saying this, but he's also a kid with a lot of talent. My wife is an unashamed bieberhead so his CDs are always playing in her car. When I am in her car I'm subjected to his music and, at first, I'd change the CD out to anything else. After awhile, I got more used to it and actually started listening. I think the kid is talented.

It's hard to be normal when you have that much money and fame at such a young age. Hopefully he will grow up before he does something terminal.

i used to think the same way, what a douche kid and should be deported however like you mentioned it's hard to act normal with that much money . it got me thinking , if i had that much money at such a young age what the helll would i be doing . i honestly think id be doing a lot worse than him . i have changed my thoughts on his doucheness for sure . still dont like him much though . hahaha



and yes i saw this yesterday . i even took pictures of the tv showing my friends . shaking my head

[BEM-S4]

I also always try to think how I'd behave if I had access to that kind of cash and no one telling me no at that age. I can't say I'd be the most down to earth person either!

Went to school with the Trump kids, Ivanka in particular I was shocked that she was actually decent to be around back then. I imagine most people would be a nightmare with her looks, money, family etc.

[zx10guy]

It boils down to parenting. Doesn't matter how rich you are if your parents are AWOL. I just watched an American Greed episode recently. It was about twin brothers that started a pain killer dispensary in Florida. The show interviewed the father and I just a wanted to reach through the TV and smack him. No accountability on his two sons being out of control at a young age. Just had the attitude that his kids were just being boys. And he had the gall to say he didn't know at what point his kids went down the wrong path.

[PoorLurker]

Originally Posted by zx10guy

I just watched an American Greed episode recently.

1. Love that show!

2. Bieber even said, "You give a 20 year old $200 million dollars, X is going to happen."

Think about all of the people without paparazzi following them doing stupid stuff. I am not excusing him doing idiotic stuff, but when you have been surrounded by adult YES men since you were 14, it's probably hard to get your ethical bearings set while going through your teenage years.

I like his music and have no shame in admitting it. He's talented. Does he do things that I think are stupid? Yes... The worst being saying yes to this video which destroys the greatness of the song.

Ridiculous to pay that much on top of that car especially with damage. Reminds me of that time someone paid $100k for the Fast n Furious Jetta. Worst idea ever.

[NorCal f80]

^ love that song though . haaaaa

[NorCal f80]

Originally Posted by zx10guy

It boils down to parenting.....

i agree to a point . I know plenty of girls that were brought up by veeeeeery strict parents . it made them wonder what the bad side would feel like . at the end of the day of course they turned out okay but in the younger days they did learn what the d is we'll say . hahahahaaaa. i grew up with a very strict military dad and i've gotten into plenty of trouble myself .

[DieGrüneHölle]

Bieber ownership history is not enough to keep this car's value from tanking down the road. 20+ years from now, vintage Ferrari buyers will be looking for originality.

What a 458 looks like under the tacked on liberty walk kit. Paying a premium for a hacked up Ferrari is just stupid.

[KingOfJericho]

Originally Posted by sygazelle

He is a snot-nosed kid who gets in the headlines a lot with his bad choices.

I can't believe I'm saying this, but he's also a kid with a lot of talent. My wife is an unashamed bieberhead so his CDs are always playing in her car. When I am in her car I'm subjected to his music and, at first, I'd change the CD out to anything else. After awhile, I got more used to it and actually started listening. I think the kid is talented.

It's hard to be normal when you have that much money and fame at such a young age. Hopefully he will grow up before he does something terminal.

What's a CD?

[AW335TT]

Originally Posted by zx10guy

It boils down to parenting. Doesn't matter how rich you are if your parents are AWOL. I just watched an American Greed episode recently. It was about twin brothers that started a pain killer dispensary in Florida. The show interviewed the father and I just a wanted to reach through the TV and smack him. No accountability on his two sons being out of control at a young age. Just had the attitude that his kids were just being boys. And he had the gall to say he didn't know at what point his kids went down the wrong path.

Have to disagree about the parenting part. I think it boils down to the individual. If he/she is a piece of shit than he/she is a piece of shit, parenting only goes so far. I know ppl who had absentee parents, parents who drank a lot, etc who grew up to be very good people.. I also know ppl that had good parents, that grew up to be idiots that made a ton of bad decisions. It all comes from the person. YES, good parenting is important but it only goes so far.. I dont agree with blaming the parents for the dumb things their teens do.

I think I have amazing parents and I think they did a very good job at raising me and my brother. I made a couple dumb choices in my early 20s.. nothing to crazy but if I was as famous as Bieber, it would have been on the news lol. I would never in a million years blame my parents for my choices.

[sygazelle]

Originally Posted by KingOfJericho

What's a CD?

Too funny.

My wife has had her car for a long time and it has no download or streaming capabilities. CD is the best option for her since she already has a good collection. So, we listen to newer music in my car and older music in hers. We plan to fix and will be shopping for an X3 or X5 later this year.

Your question, although I know it was in humor, got me thinking. Does anybody actually buy CD's anymore? The answer surprised me.

There were more CD's sold this year than people who attend the inauguration last week, according to reliable sources citing alternative facts.

From another source, CD sales are still either #1 or #2 in music source revenue for the music industry, an industry that has seen retail music purchase revenue plummet over the past few years. For those who think this is interesting stuff, please click the link. If not, don't since there are are a lot of charts.

http://blog.thecurrent.org/2014/02/4...e-handy-chart/


Now, back to my, errr, my wife's Justin Bieber CD.

[KingOfJericho]

I don't know a single person who has purchased a CD in the last several years. I am a music lover and haven't purchased music in any form (physical or digital) since probably 2003. I now pay for Spotify.

[overcoil]

Originally Posted by Blipit_

Bieber ownership history is not enough to keep this car's value from tanking down the road. 20+ years from now, vintage Ferrari buyers will be looking for originality.

What a 458 looks like under the tacked on liberty walk kit. Paying a premium for a hacked up Ferrari is just stupid.

I was just coming on here to ask the very question, after seeing the RWB cut fenders, how LW looked.

Question for you, do you think the Singer carbon fiber body panels are sacrilege for dumping the original metal body panels ?

I was youtubing first gen Porsche 911 restorations from 64-69...and I'm starting to think leaving the patina and original, whatever - is better then those total restorations where the car is better then when new.

[Red Bread]

Wait, did someone just compare a Liberty Walk to a Singer?!

Remember that a Singer is a 964 chassis, meant to look like a 60's or 70's. While there's a growing market for 964's, it's not nearly what the first ten years cars are seeing.

[overcoil]

Originally Posted by Red Bread

Wait, did someone just compare a Liberty Walk to a Singer?!

Remember that a Singer is a 964 chassis, meant to look like a 60's or 70's. While there's a growing market for 964's, it's not nearly what the first ten years cars are seeing.

Wasn't trying to compare a Singer to a Liberty Walk.

As for Singer and the 964 chassis, when my family had one, and they sent out the Christiphorus Magazine, l am almost certain they said the 964 front fenders were shaped by hand (the exact method I don't know) but it did seem the 964 were the last of the 911's to use 'Craft production techniques' as described in the book 'THE MACHINE THAT CHANGED THE WORLD'.

So I'm asking is it sad to see 964's cannibalized for the carbon-fiber body? Sure not too many Singer 911's made in total, but the 964-911's were out during an economic downturn so not sure how many in total exist.

[Red Bread]

The problem for 964's is that the 993 that followed it is just massively better looking and had a better suspension. If Singer were cutting up 993's I'd be burning Catherine Wheel CD's instead of typing this.

[Flying Ace]

they should have crushed that disaster with him in it. Both are a menace to the general public welfare.

[overcoil]

Originally Posted by Red Bread

The problem for 964's is that the 993 that followed it is just massively better looking and had a better suspension. If Singer were cutting up 993's I'd be burning Catherine Wheel CD's instead of typing this.

I totally disagree, 964 is better in my eye. The front fenders of the 964 are almost like a pair of women's thighs, the 993 is like a boxster.

[Torgus]

he would drive an automatic.