[ObsidianX]

The X3M release caught my attention. Will there be a X3 M40i released in 2017? How will the X3M distinguish itself from the M Sport variant of the standard X3?

[ron_jeremy]

Originally Posted by X3paul

I wasnt very impressed with the Fpace - saw it in frankfurt M show. Could have been a preproduction model but the interior quality was as poor as the current x3, outdated boring interior design and the rear exterior, like the XE, looks very 90's. With that said it will sell like crazy! That badge will do the job. It might been fun to drive havent tested it

That's the thing i'm "not getting", as the apparent "it will sell like hot cakes".
The branding is not like Range Rover - at all, not in Scandinavian that is. Jag made shitty cars and rebadged Ford's...! I get the Evoque, it deserves great sales, as with the jag SUV, i'm not so sure, to late to the game and not very uniqe imo.

[X3paul]

Originally Posted by ron_jeremy

That's the thing i'm "not getting", as the apparent "it will sell like hot cakes".
The branding is not like Range Rover - at all, not in Scandinavian that is. Jag made shitty cars and rebadged Ford's...! I get the Evoque, it deserves great sales, as with the jag SUV, i'm not so sure, to late to the game and not very uniqe imo.

I agree i am not impressed with it myself. But believe me spain, italy, uk it will sell

[SCOTT26]

Originally Posted by X3paul

If they introduce a cheap version like bmw does (sdrive 18d) watch it outsell the x3. Btw s drive on an suv? Makes sense...the "ultimate money machine"? When will bmw get rid of that old so last century "the ultimate drive machine"? Surely it could be banned someday for misleading consumers no?

Repeated for the 1000 time.
"The Ultimate Driving Machine" is a marketing term for English speaking markets.
It is not used elsewhere as the global slogan for BMW is Freude am Fahren meaning Sheer Driving Pleasure. The term "The Ultimate Driving Machine" is not used globally but only in select English speaking markets.we don't use that term in Munich unless speaking,regarding English Speaking Markets.

[X3paul]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

Repeated for the 1000 time.
"The Ultimate Driving Machine" is a marketing term for English speaking markets.
It is not used elsewhere as the global slogan for BMW is Freude am Fahren meaning Sheer Driving Pleasure. The term "The Ultimate Driving Machine" is not used globally but only in select English speaking markets.we don't use that term in Munich unless speaking,regarding English Speaking Markets.

Because only people in english speaking markets use these forums right? You sir...

[Teutonic]

I hope that they will not come up with that off market Garmin display...

[SCOTT26]

Originally Posted by X3paul

Because only people in english speaking markets use these forums right? You sir...

This is a global forum. I do communicate with members who PM in German and French.

[paulo_f80m3]

I really don't understand the "outdated" term everyone's been using. For a 2011 design it's still a fantastic looking SAV. Simple and still technology wise up to date. We love our x3 and we'll continue to love it more for many years to come.

[SCOTT26]

Originally Posted by paulo_f80m3

I really don't understand the "outdated" term everyone's been using. For a 2011 design it's still a fantastic looking SAV. Simple and still technology wise up to date. We love our x3 and we'll continue to love it more for many years to come.

And there will be an all new and far lighter X3 next Summer.

[X3paul]

Originally Posted by paulo_f80m3

I really don't understand the "outdated" term everyone's been using. For a 2011 design it's still a fantastic looking SAV. Simple and still technology wise up to date. We love our x3 and we'll continue to love it more for many years to come.

Its the interior...sooo 90's

[X3paul]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

And there will be an all new and far lighter X3 next Summer.

Bmw made the same claim for f25...as the owner of both generations I can tell you it was bs

[X3paul]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

This is a global forum. I do communicate with members who PM in German and French.

I think you fail to grasp the concept of sarcasm...just like a machine would.

[Alfisti]

Originally Posted by X3paul

Its the interior...sooo 90's

This.

[X3paul]

Originally Posted by Alfisti

This.

And the build quality...well and f25 owner know what i am talking about. I do miss the idrive. The macan has way too many buttons

[GeeRam]

Originally Posted by X3paul

I do miss the idrive. The macan has way too many buttons

See.......this is exactly what's putting me off a Macan, as I really don't want to go back to a touch screen system again, plus I find the Google Send to Car very useful.

The other issue is I really don't fancy waiting 12 months plus for a petrol Macan either or even longer as I it was the GTS that was floating my boat, but rumour is due to demand, waiting list for a build slot with some UK dealers has now reached 24 months and some dealers won't now even accept a GTS order.

BMW could seriously nick a lot of prospective customers from Porsche if they get the X3M right.

I just love to have a more accurate idea of UK timescales for when it's likely to go on sale here......as long as merino leather comfort multi-function comfort seats are an option

[X3paul]

Originally Posted by GeeRam

See.......this is exactly what's putting me off a Macan, as I really don't want to go back to a touch screen system again, plus I find the Google Send to Car very useful.

The other issue is I really don't fancy waiting 12 months plus for a petrol Macan either or even longer as I it was the GTS that was floating my boat, but rumour is due to demand, waiting list for a build slot with some UK dealers has now reached 24 months and some dealers won't now even accept a GTS order.

BMW could seriously nick a lot of prospective customers from Porsche if they get the X3M right.

I just love to have a more accurate idea of UK timescales for when it's likely to go on sale here......as long as merino leather comfort multi-function comfort seats are an option

Yeah...I had to put up with my x3 for 18m before my macan arrived!!

[PIEZON]

Originally Posted by Croatian test driver

Ok, this is just a render (don't know how acurate it is), but I don't really like it honestly. The headlights look pretty "Audi-ish", and the side lines are pretty boring (and actually also a bit more Audi than BMW style).

I definitely prefer the F25 side lines, much more muscular and exciting.

I agree they definitely built a lot of great character lines in the X3!

[PIEZON]

Originally Posted by paulo_f80m3

I really don't understand the "outdated" term everyone's been using. For a 2011 design it's still a fantastic looking SAV. Simple and still technology wise up to date. We love our x3 and we'll continue to love it more for many years to come.

Agree! Love your wheels! I'm getting the black grills installed today!

[JMD]

Damn! If the styling is close to this rendered version,...it's going to be Hot!

[Crassus]

I hope BMW will finally introduce, for the UK market, an engine that sit between the 20d and 30d. Punchy and economical, the 20d is a good engine but not luxurious for a car priced as high as the X3. At idle it's gruff and the noticeable turbo lag between 0-2,000rpm.
I consider it an entry level engine for the X3. The 30d is sublime but is a big jump in price from the 20d and is also considerably more expensive to tax.

We need something in the middle.

[Alfisti]

Originally Posted by Crassus

I hope BMW will finally introduce, for the UK market, an engine that sit between the 20d and 30d. Punchy and economical, the 20d is a good engine but not luxurious for a car priced as high as the X3. At idle it's gruff and the noticeable turbo lag between 0-2,000rpm.
I consider it an entry level engine for the X3. The 30d is sublime but is a big jump in price from the 20d and is also considerably more expensive to tax.

We need something in the middle.

You need a better government. Diesel is a joke.

[drummerlauw]

Spotted near Calabasas a couple weeks ago