First Oil Change

[alan64]

with the service covered by bmw, what are you guys doing about first oil change? Are some of you insisting they change the oil after the first thousand miles or so, like what used to be done, or letting it go longer? If longer, how long?

[Z4@Phuket]

Originally Posted by alan64

with the service covered by bmw, what are you guys doing about first oil change? Are some of you insisting they change the oil after the first thousand miles or so, like what used to be done, or letting it go longer? If longer, how long?

With BMW service inclusive, BMW will change oil only when indicated by the car's computer, mostly at 10,000 km or 1 year interval
no oil change is needed after first 1,000 Km, unlike Japanese cars

[Memphis1]

unlike the M3, we don't need the 1200mile "first" service, but even though BMW will only perform the services when the computer asks for it, you can definitely have them do it, except it will cost you every time it's outside of the computers request. or if you know what you're doing, do it yourself.

[milhouse]

Originally Posted by Z4@Phuket

With BMW service inclusive, BMW will change oil only when indicated by the car's computer, mostly at 10,000 km or 1 year interval
no oil change is needed after first 1,000 Km, unlike Japanese cars

The first oil change is at 30 000km or 2 years. Whatever happens first. That is they way in Europe!

[Memphis1]

Originally Posted by milhouse

The first oil change is at 30 000km or 2 years. Whatever happens first. That is they way in Europe!

there's nothing set in stone, your 2.5 liter engine might not require it for 15k or 20k miles, but the 3.0 with Turbos might require it at 12k miles. it's computer based and it takes into account how you drive, length per trip, engine temp, outside temp and many other factors and the car will notify you.

[milhouse]

Originally Posted by memphis2012

there's nothing set in stone, your 2.5 liter engine might not require it for 15k or 20k miles, but the 3.0 with Turbos might require it at 12k miles. it's computer based and it takes into account how you drive, length per trip, engine temp, outside temp and many other factors and the car will notify you.

I work at BMW so I know, but the basic time is 2 years!! Another salesman(other company) rented a brand new 318D just for fun and went on nurburgring with it! I had to go to service after 2 days!!

[Memphis1]

first off, get rid of your explanation points, you come across as if you're yelling at me and i'm not yelling at you. secondly, i don't care if you're Franz Josef Popp jr., you contradicted yourself in the previous post and you did it again in this one.

[Z4@Phuket]

Put all worries away. Just having fun driving your car.
One day the car tells you "I need oil change" then you go for it

For me I don't count the mile or time. Do whatever the car tells you.
BE HAPPY

[T89]

Originally Posted by milhouse

The first oil change is at 30 000km or 2 years. Whatever happens first. That is they way in Europe!

Same here. First oil change is at 30,000km. Says so in the computer. I guess that's the standard. But obviously the more aggressive you drive the sooner you'll have to change.


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[milhouse]

Originally Posted by memphis2012

first off, get rid of your explanation points, you come across as if you're yelling at me and i'm not yelling at you. secondly, i don't care if you're Franz Josef Popp jr., you contradicted yourself in the previous post and you did it again in this one.

My English is just bad! I was not yelling at you!
You a right about the oil shift.

I just tried to say that it basicly is 2 years/30000km, if you drive it like you have stolen it you have to have service faster. pretty much what you said! OK?

I hope I dident make you to angry! Wasent the intention.

[alan64]

Originally Posted by memphis2012

first off, get rid of your explanation points, you come across as if you're yelling at me and i'm not yelling at you. secondly, i don't care if you're Franz Josef Popp jr., you contradicted yourself in the previous post and you did it again in this one.

they guy is not yelling at you, he is just from another country. I think you are being too sensitive. But I wont yell at you.

[rmorin49]

I believe the service intervals are different in Europe vs USA and Canada. For normal driving the US cars will car for an oil change somewhere between 10-15K miles. Perhaps this is related to the "free" maintenance. I am surprised that the European cars are set to go as much as 30K kilometers before an oil change is indicated.

[yabbanoname]

well my z4 yelled for 1 ltr of oil after 15000 km, the computer tells me it would like a refesh at 36000 km ...

[LofgrenCL]

Originally Posted by Scott'sZ4

Cheap cars need the oil changed after 1,000kms as the engines shave off small metal fragments that can damage the engine until its run in. The BMWs dont do this and therefore not required.

Sir,
I am sorry but you are WRONG!! During the break in period, any car will have wear on metal linkages and surfaces, not just "Cheap" cars. That being said, BMW engineering is so precise that "minimal" wear occurs during "break in" or the first 1200 miles. This wear is determined to be negligable by the BMW "bean counters" and therefore the first oil change and Transmission Fluid change is not required until "BMW says so." Trans being a "lifetime fill" (that according to BMW) never needs changing. That is of course not true. However you will not ever notice the effects of NOT changing the break in fluid - if you plan on getting rid of your car at or before the warranty runs out. BMW has done the math and they know that most people do not keep their cars past 100K miles. So the warranty and fluids are all calculated to be changed in order to ensure that you will have very few problems 0 - 100K miles, as long as you service the car according to the BMW service schedule.
As a soldier stationed in Germany, I bought a 3.5i and at 1200 miles paid for the oil and transmission fluids to be changed. Germany does not offer the free scheduled service that you get in the USA. So I did it as I try to take meticulous care of my cars. That and I keep my cars past 100K miles.
I hope this helps.. RLTW

[mikeinaustin]

Originally Posted by LofgrenCL

Sir,
I am sorry but you are WRONG!! During the break in period, any car will have wear on metal linkages and surfaces, not just "Cheap" cars. That being said, BMW engineering is so precise that "minimal" wear occurs during "break in" or the first 1200 miles. This wear is determined to be negligable by the BMW "bean counters" and therefore the first oil change and Transmission Fluid change is not required until "BMW says so." Trans being a "lifetime fill" (that according to BMW) never needs changing. That is of course not true. However you will not ever notice the effects of NOT changing the break in fluid - if you plan on getting rid of your car at or before the warranty runs out. BMW has done the math and they know that most people do not keep their cars past 100K miles. So the warranty and fluids are all calculated to be changed in order to ensure that you will have very few problems 0 - 100K miles, as long as you service the car according to the BMW service schedule.
As a soldier stationed in Germany, I bought a 3.5i and at 1200 miles paid for the oil and transmission fluids to be changed. Germany does not offer the free scheduled service that you get in the USA. So I did it as I try to take meticulous care of my cars. That and I keep my cars past 100K miles.
I hope this helps.. RLTW

you are basically correct though in the us the warranty is down to 50k miles. for my 3.0 the "scheduled" oil change is 15k or once a year. I keep my cars, basically, forever. So i will change the oil every 5k miles and let the dealer do every 3rd one. at 30k miles, the transmission fluid will be flushed, rear differential drained and filled & power steering fluid changed.

again, if you want your car to last to 50k miles, follow bmw's service schedule, if you want to hit 200k miles, you'll have to do a LOT more. it simply depends on how long you plan on keeping the car.

[LofgrenCL]

Originally Posted by Scott'sZ4

yeah right! Keep telling yourself that tiger!

I am not sure what you mean by that.. But I trust the (few) certified BMW mechanics that I work with in Stuttgart and Mike Miller (of Bimmer Mag) more than the collection of "experts" here on line.

As for the 50k warranty versus 100K - I was referring to the BMW CPO warranty that BMW offers after the initial warranty runs out.

But again, I am not an expert.. "Scott'sZ4" obviously knows more than I..

[BlueZ4AZ]

The missing of one oil change in at 1k miles seems insignificant, when you look at the big picture.

If you follow the proper oil change period up to 100k miles and have the car maintained at the proper time, you should be OK.

You just don't hear about many BMW engines dying between 48k- 100k miles, and those that due are probably due to neglect, not because they missed the 1k oil change.

So, this seems like a moot point, even for us in the US with the 48k mile warranty.

[alan64]

Originally Posted by LofgrenCL

I am not sure what you mean by that.. But I trust the (few) certified BMW mechanics that I work with in Stuttgart and Mike Miller (of Bimmer Mag) more than the collection of "experts" here on line.

As for the 50k warranty versus 100K - I was referring to the BMW CPO warranty that BMW offers after the initial warranty runs out.

But again, I am not an expert.. "Scott'sZ4" obviously knows more than I..

here is the thing, scott z4 thinks he is both humourous and knowledgeable. He is neither. Just another guy who likes to try to stir the pot. There are lots of these types on all the forums.

[Micky Dee]

I've had numerous BMW's, diesel and petrol. I've always gone by the car's service indicator. I've never had excessive engine wear, oil usage or other issues. Modern manufacturing tolerances and good quality oils must count for something.

[Z_Victor1]

Originally Posted by memphis2012

first off, get rid of your explanation points, you come across as if you're yelling at me and i'm not yelling at you. secondly, i don't care if you're Franz Josef Popp jr., you contradicted yourself in the previous post and you did it again in this one.

[alan64]

Originally Posted by Scott'sZ4

Oh yeah Stuttfart is the Porsche factory... Regensburg is the BMW one. These ""mechanics had you fool with that one also

go back to bed, you are not funny. you are a moroon. an ultra moroon