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08-08-2017, 06:09 PM | #23 |
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Great joke, a little late for April fools.
Ev wont be adopted anywhere near the rate to make that delusion happen. Not really, unless the fascists at the EU already bribed/forced all others. I have serious doubts. |
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08-09-2017, 04:39 AM | #24 |
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Yes because never in history has one government been voted out and a new one reversed their policies.
Much of Europe is honestly too broke or poor to do it that fast. Hell i don't hear Italy being all gung ho about it, or Spain Poland Russia ex. |
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08-09-2017, 08:23 AM | #25 |
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Going from less than 1% to 100% in less than 10 years, unlikely but it does put them in the news. Marketing at it's best, people like to hear it, they talk about it, company makes no real changes from what they are already doing and all at zero cost.
Still no viable solution without ICE for anyone that wants to make a long driving trip (me very often for work). Turn 10 hour days into a 12 hour days and spend hours at the "fueling stations".
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08-09-2017, 08:50 AM | #26 |
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People's willingness to believe technology is ready when it is not absolutely staggers me.
We are a solid 25 to 30 years away from any significant change in transportation propulsion and i include autonomous vehicle sin that. |
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08-09-2017, 09:07 AM | #27 |
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Ahem ... China might want to talk to you about that ...
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Dude, we're talking trees vs. forest. OK, here's one for you: India. Second biggest tree in the forest with what's considered one of the world's worst post-industrial infrastructures. Please, please, oh PLEASE tell me how EVs will be viable there when it can't even figure out how to tax its own citizenry, much less pave proper roads. :: drops mic, shakes head ::
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Want an example? Brexit. I see that you're in Manchester. Congratulations to your populace to shooting your Commonwealth's economic potential squarely in the foot for the next 10-15 years. And congratulations on the eventuality that Scotland and Northern Ireland will leave the UK within five years. As for EVs ... Sure, England can force them on the populace. The UK, however, can't force them on, say, Australia's populace, or Canada's. You know what the two biggest problems to EV viability are in those two places? Climate and distance. The UK has neither issue. Develop some foresight, and start looking at larger pictures. Both skills comes in handy.
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08-09-2017, 11:28 AM | #31 |
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A holding company is far, far different from an actual corporation.
Case in point: 7-Eleven. Owned by a Japanese holding company since 1990. So you'd think all 7-Eleven stores cater to a Japanese market, right? Please, oh, PLEASE get a clue.
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I don't disagree on ICE's decline but see it going away in the next 10 years highly unlikely.
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From my previous post: "A holding company is far, far different from an actual corporation." Please don't tell me you're one of those knee-jerk reactionaries. Figured there'd be a few of those across the pond, but still ... wow? FYI: Geely's only owned Volvo Cars for seven years. And Volvo Cars' HQ is still in Gothenburg, Sweden. And Geely only owns Volvo Cars, not Volvo AB, which is Volvo's far more profitable truck division. Guess what else Volvo AB owns? Mack Trucks. Guess what else? Renault Trucks. So do you really want to say that Mack Trucks, based in North Carolina (and formerly based in Brooklyn and Allentown, Pennsylvania), is now a Swedish company? (At least Volvo AB is a manufacturer, not a holding company!). And do you really want to say that Renault Trucks -- pretty much the only large truck manufacturer France has ever had that meant anything, though Citroen gave it a shot -- is now Swedish? Riiiiight.
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Snicker. Anyone want to venture a guess about how many Chinese engineers work at Volvo?
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China has little, if not nothing, to do with that business decision. Study your macroeconomics and get back to me, please.
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Volvo ownership is Chinese, profits end up in China, you can buy the Chinese built Volvo in the U.S., somehow this looks like a Chinese company to me. Since Geely purchased Volvo they have drastically increased Chinese production of Volvo's (I think from zero), many going to export and I don't believe this was decision made by the Swedish.
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I'm also not going to sit here and say that a holding company doesn't have anything to do with the decision-making at a portfolio corporation. But most holding companies do not manage their companies that way -- and they can't en masse for various reasons that range from antitrust law and macroeconomics to public relations and marketing. Part of why holding companies work on the macroeconomic level is because portfolios are typically diversified, and diversification typically means management occurs chiefly at the corporate level, not the ownership level.
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