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How about you realize that I am comparing based on the size of the car (similar to the C, 3, A series), performance are comparable to the 335, S4, C350 (in terms of straight line speed), and they are all "luxury" sports sedan in the same price range. Seems like you need some visual demonstration that one car is a luxury sedan while the other is a sport hatchback. CLA45 VS: |
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Wait for reviews, I suspect it will not be favorably compared to the things you think it should. Or just pick up a European magazine and read about the A Class. Don't forget about the Neon SRT4, which was a sedan, had a turbo 4, was about the size of a 3er and is as quick in a straight line as an S4, 335i or C350. |
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I am trying to explain to you that CLA45 and Golf R are in different class. How hard is it to grasp the concept that the CLA45 and a Volkswagon Golf R are 2 very different cars with different purpose? Let's compare a Lotus Elise to a Toyota Celica since they both share the same engine, that means they are direct competitors. Let's not factor in the price, performance, and class diference... Quote:
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I've been in too many Mercs, hyped and praised by the media, only to find the same formula. Fantastic cars for sure, but really not any sort of feel, nor handling. Including the E63, CLS550, E550 Coupe, etc. LOVE the V-8 rumble though, especially out of the AMG. Driving a bank vault though, and when I am ready to buy my last car, it will likely be a Mercedes if they don't go down hill, cannot argue with their engineering longevity.
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05-31-2013, 08:44 AM | #31 |
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If you haven't driven a Haldex car, I can see why you still don't get the Golf R comparison. But if you want a very good idea of what the CLA will drive like, the Golf R will give you a much better idea than an S4 or 335ix. Further, try one with an APR or similar tune.
Remember that the S3 is a Golf R with a trunk and a tune, if that gives you enough of a comparable reference to the Benz. |
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05-31-2013, 12:26 PM | #33 |
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05-31-2013, 12:30 PM | #34 | |
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The CLA and S3 are sort of odd ducks, priced and powered like the C and 3er, but fwd based and based on significantly cheaper cars. |
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05-31-2013, 02:10 PM | #36 |
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There really isn't a direct competitor in the BMW stable. The S3 is the closest german competition.
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05-31-2013, 02:30 PM | #37 |
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Next generation 1 series, yes. It's moving to a fwd chassis shared with Mini and will also have Haldex awd like the current Countryman AWD. This is what's funny to me about people making a lot out of the CLA 45 just because it has lots of power and awd. It's still based on the A Class, a car that competes directly with the Countryman and Golf R, but slap a trunk on it and Americans think it's fancy.
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sat in a CLA recently...didn't like it, dash was very in your face, the back seats were cramped (smaller than a C class in the back) and the roof was very low (lower than being in a 135i).
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I've always wondered about this, as in how it may affect the reliability long term by putting what seems like a lot of strain for such a small engine. Or how performance may be affected.
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Idk if you've sat in the CLS, but how was the room compared to the last gen if you have? Did it make the CLS look dated?
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Sat in the new gen CLS and old gen CLS, made the last gen CLS look very out dated, must admit looks quite swish inside the new CLA but still just not a fan. It was a bit less roomy than the old gen cls and even more so than the new gen cls (since its a bit bigger than its previous gen)
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I just can't get over the ugly exterior. Interior is a different story.
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The interior is nice until I saw the big LCD screen. It seems so out of place like it was put there at the last mintue. Honestly, it looks like a giant tablet taped on the dash, a bit ghetto IMO.
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