Still want an EV?

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by Weather Man

Ask Scotland and the UK with the ULEV zones how the center path is going. The Green Insanity is a cult, they do not go back. They can be voted out, maybe, but the indoctrination is strong.

ULEV is its own issue.

[Weather Man]

Originally Posted by gblansten

ULEV is its own issue.

You're not paying attention then.

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by Weather Man

You're not paying attention then.

I have read many articles on this. I can't pay more attention to it though. I'm tapped out. I will plan to stay at my present level of staying fairly well informed on the topic and the impacts and the stakeholders in this policy.

[AmuroRay]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

from the land of the strange

EV owners say their cars are making them SICK - as driver claims her Tesla caused her nose bleeds, 'debilitating' body pains and hair loss
15 May 2024
There are growing reports of electric car drivers suffering motion sickness, dizziness and nausea from the vehicles' braking and acceleration systems.

And a former Tesla owner has claimed that she experienced nosebleeds, hair loss and 'debilitating' body pains while using the vehicle she purchased in 2021.

While she was not entirely sure the Tesla was at fault, the Georgia resident and said her symptoms disappeared after selling the car.

Tesla has been accused of being the 'worst offender' for causing motion sickness from its one-pedal throttle because they can be 'very jerky and really abrupt,' Ed Kim, president and chief analyst of AutoPacific told ABC News.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...ick-Tesla.html

OK EV's cause hair loss? Sometimes you just need to understand that your customer base is a fry short of a happy meal?

Go back a few pages where I can as laughed at for pointing out people have EMF sensitivity and that high emf fields that these cars can put out can make people sick.

[Weather Man]

Well, EV'ers rejoice, hydrogen car that will have a higher death by fire rate than EV's and a 1971 shitbox Pinto.

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by Weather Man

Well, EV'ers rejoice, hydrogen car that will have a higher death by fire rate than EV's and a 1971 shitbox Pinto.

As long as EVs aren’t as bad as ICE for fires then I’m cool.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/neilwin...h=1ea195e41dd6

[Weather Man]

Originally Posted by gblansten

As long as EVs aren’t as bad as ICE for fires then I’m cool.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/neilwin...h=1ea195e41dd6

Try again, DEATH BY FIRE, Ev's are worse than a shitbox 1971 Pinto.

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by Weather Man

Try again, DEATH BY FIRE, Ev's are worse than a shitbox 1971 Pinto.

Where is your data on EV fire death rate vs ICE fire death rate?

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by gblansten

As long as EVs aren’t as bad as ICE for fires then I’m cool.

I'll take a ICE fire any day before an EV thermal runaway. Don't make me post the Paris burning bus video again!

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

I'll take a ICE fire any day before an EV thermal runaway. Don't make me post the Paris burning bus video again!

I posted it yesterday. 🤣

No one has posted it today. I’ll take a logarithmic reduction in fires with EVs versus ICE. I can see having differing takes on this since EV fires are harder to put out.

[Car-Addicted]

Nothing to see here, Move along.

BYD Reportedly Sees 10th Showroom Fire Since 2021 As Store Burns Down In China
05/16/2024
BYD blames old wiring in the store's roof for the fire, but reports indicate that its showrooms catch fire pretty frequently.


In October 2021, a fire broke out in a BYD 4S store in Hainan.
In April 2022, a fire broke out in a BYD 4S store in Shaoguan, Guangdong.
In May 2022, a fire broke out in the after-sales workshop of a BYD 4S store in Hengshui, Hebei Province.
On July 9, 2022, a fire broke out in a BYD 4S store in Xingning District, Nanning City, Guangxi.
On November 18, 2022, a fire broke out in BYD’s Phase 3 F6 factory building in Daya Bay West District.
On December 8, 2022, a BYD 4S store caught fire near Gongye Road in Erqi District, Zhengzhou City, Henan Province.
On June 1, 2023, a fire broke out in the material area of Workshop No. 1 at BYD’s Pangguan production base.
In May 2023, a fire broke out in a BYD 4S store in Jiangmen, Guangdong.
In December 2023, a fire broke out in a BYD 4S store in Tiexi District, Shenyang, Liaoning.
On December 18, 2023, a fire broke out in the BYD 4S store in Xinmaoyuan, Chengdu, Sichuan.
On December 30, 2023, a fire broke out in the exhibition hall of a BYD 4S store in Changhua, Binzhou, Shandong.

https://x.com/SoundOfHope_SOH/status...72179896963502
https://www.carscoops.com/2024/05/by...down-in-china/

[SteVTEC]

Honda Stands Firm on Full Electrification Efforts

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a6...ation-efforts/

• In a new roadmap showing Honda's investment and production plans moving forward, the automaker doubled down on full electrification, re-committing to 100 percent EV and FCEV sales by 2040.
• The automaker is putting a central focus on battery technology and plans to invest over $60 billion in electrification through 2030.
• Additionally, the company aims to reduce battery costs by more than 20 percent compared to today's pricing, while also reducing overall production costs by 35 percent.

Selling electric vehicles is hard. At least, it is in the United States where it's never been harder to buy a single-family home and some people's commute is equivalent to a small European country. Those roadblocks aren't stopping Honda though, with the automaker doubling down on electrification and re-committing to 100 percent EV and FCEV sales by 2040.

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Of all the automakers, I'm actually most eager to see Honda go full EV. From their lame naturally aspirated engines that have zero torque below 5000rpm, to their garbage automatic transmissions, to their even more garbage CVT transmissions, and now castrating their lineup by getting rid of the few good powertrains they might have had, they might as well just throw in the damned towel already and go EV!

The new Toyota Prius is faster than the damned Honda Civic SI. Come the f*** on Honda!!!!!

The CTR is about the only good vehicle they make at the moment, and even the Civic has turned into a massive car that's bigger than the Accord I used to have. Honda needs to rethink their entire lineup. Going full EV could only help them at this point.

[eugenebmw]

Originally Posted by Weather Man

Well, EV'ers rejoice, hydrogen car that will have a higher death by fire rate than EV's and a 1971 shitbox Pinto.

Nothing wrong with a 1971 shitbox Pinto. Everything is mechanical. I can get out of the car by opening the door in less than 2 seconds

[Car-Addicted]

The EU folks are stupid, the questions how stupid are we?

If They Let China Get Away with THIS They’re Crazy
This guy has it right!

Personally I'm all for a invasion of cheap Chinese EV's. This will finish this stupid EV boondoggle quickly. No soccer mom will touch a EV when the evening news is littered with burning Chinese EV's.
If a cheap EV burns to the ground, is it bad for the environment? Just asking for a friend.

[Car-Addicted]

Who would have predicted that a bunch of rental EV's were ridden hard and put a way wet?

Hertz's Used Teslas Are Glitchy, Damaged Nightmares
05/16/2024
Take Bijay Pandey of Irving, Texas. He went and purchased a 2022 Model 3 Long Range for just $25,000 for his wife earlier this year. Problems with it started not long after he purchased it.
After getting a temporary title, he found the car wasn’t reading voltage correctly. Soon, a body shop found a quarter-size hole in the undercarriage he hadn’t seen before, which led to revelations of deeper issues inside. “The high-voltage battery pack is damaged and could cause extreme safety concerns,” a Tesla technician texted him.
The hole in the battery pack turned out to be damage that was classified as “exterior damage,” resulting in a repair bill of over $13,000. Of course, that amount wasn’t covered by warranty. Surprisingly, Hertz told Pandey they would let him swap the car for another.
The battery abuse these have received makes a purchase from Hertz a dealbreaker. My prior experience with purchase of a used rental does factor. Most rental cars don’t see much abuse, however many of these were Uber rentals, lots of fast charging, using all the range there is, the abuse is such it falls on the poor slob that buys one. I would buy a used Tesla from Tesla, that’s about it.
https://jalopnik.com/even-ford-is-wa...now-1851466376

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Who would have predicted that a bunch of rental EV's were ridden hard and put a way wet?

Hertz's Used Teslas Are Glitchy, Damaged Nightmares
05/16/2024
Take Bijay Pandey of Irving, Texas. He went and purchased a 2022 Model 3 Long Range for just $25,000 for his wife earlier this year. Problems with it started not long after he purchased it.
After getting a temporary title, he found the car wasn’t reading voltage correctly. Soon, a body shop found a quarter-size hole in the undercarriage he hadn’t seen before, which led to revelations of deeper issues inside. “The high-voltage battery pack is damaged and could cause extreme safety concerns,” a Tesla technician texted him.
The hole in the battery pack turned out to be damage that was classified as “exterior damage,” resulting in a repair bill of over $13,000. Of course, that amount wasn’t covered by warranty. Surprisingly, Hertz told Pandey they would let him swap the car for another.
The battery abuse these have received makes a purchase from Hertz a dealbreaker. My prior experience with purchase of a used rental does factor. Most rental cars don’t see much abuse, however many of these were Uber rentals, lots of fast charging, using all the range there is, the abuse is such it falls on the poor slob that buys one. I would buy a used Tesla from Tesla, that’s about it.
https://jalopnik.com/even-ford-is-wa...now-1851466376

I am gobsmacked that buying a used car from a rental agency is a bad idea. Just floored.

[N1rve]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Who would have predicted that a bunch of rental EV's were ridden hard and put a way wet?

Hertz's Used Teslas Are Glitchy, Damaged Nightmares
05/16/2024
Take Bijay Pandey of Irving, Texas. He went and purchased a 2022 Model 3 Long Range for just $25,000 for his wife earlier this year. Problems with it started not long after he purchased it.
After getting a temporary title, he found the car wasn’t reading voltage correctly. Soon, a body shop found a quarter-size hole in the undercarriage he hadn’t seen before, which led to revelations of deeper issues inside. “The high-voltage battery pack is damaged and could cause extreme safety concerns,” a Tesla technician texted him.
The hole in the battery pack turned out to be damage that was classified as “exterior damage,” resulting in a repair bill of over $13,000. Of course, that amount wasn’t covered by warranty. Surprisingly, Hertz told Pandey they would let him swap the car for another.
The battery abuse these have received makes a purchase from Hertz a dealbreaker. My prior experience with purchase of a used rental does factor. Most rental cars don’t see much abuse, however many of these were Uber rentals, lots of fast charging, using all the range there is, the abuse is such it falls on the poor slob that buys one. I would buy a used Tesla from Tesla, that’s about it.
https://jalopnik.com/even-ford-is-wa...now-1851466376

Should have done a PPI.

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by N1rve

Should have done a PPI.

Should have gone to the Toyota dealer and purchased a Prius.

[N1rve]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Should have gone to the Toyota dealer and purchased a Prius.

Hey now. Let's not get ahead of ourselves here.